Distribution of depositors by citizenship and residency

Depositors only: Please describe YOUR situation. "I am a ..."
UK citizen, UK resident
26% (306 votes)
UK citizen, non-UK resident
57% (685 votes)
Non-UK citizen, UK resident
3% (31 votes)
Non-UK citizen, non-UK resident
11% (126 votes)
UK citizen, IoM resident
4% (44 votes)
Non-UK citizen, IoM resident
1% (8 votes)
Total votes: 1200
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You need to "vote" in the

You need to "vote" in the poll - if the button shows cancel your vote rather than vote that's because you have already voted.

Posted by ng on Mon, 17/11/2008 - 01:31
I am UK citizen, non-UK

I am UK citizen, non-UK resident (in EU)

Posted by romasanta on Mon, 17/11/2008 - 01:07
UK citizen and Uk resident

UK citizen and Uk resident

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 16/11/2008 - 22:13
"Distribution of depositors" poll re-opened

It was set to self-close in two weeks, no particularly good reason for that. It's now "unlimited".

Posted by ng on Sat, 08/11/2008 - 18:01
Stornaway

Non UK citizen, non UK resident.

Posted by stornaway on Thu, 06/11/2008 - 14:23
British Citizen. British

British Citizen.
British Passport.
British Military for 30 years.
British Taxes still being paid on UK pension and savings.
Jersey resident for 3 years.

At least my former MP [Michael Gove] communicates with me, and is being helpful.

Apart from that, the British Government takes my taxes and then washes its hands of responsibility for me. That actually makes me quite angry.

Posted by go mann on Thu, 06/11/2008 - 13:26
Citizen/Residency poll

Just to clarify. Although I am from Guernsey I am classified as non-UK citizen, non-UK resident (as stated in my BRITISH passport).

Many people (including most MPs) do not seem to understand that whilst we are not part of the UK we are British.

My fore-fathers fought in the British Navy in both World Wars, however my family starved at the hands of the Germans when our Islands were occupied in 1940. We were 'liberated' by the British forces 5 years later, almost a year after Northern France.

So it seems we can fight and die for Britain but when we need their backing they leave us to the vultures. Thanks Gordon Brown!

Posted by Guernsey Girl on Thu, 06/11/2008 - 13:05
I am a UK Citizen and Resident!

What'S the hope Please that we will actually Get our money back in Full over and above the Compensation Limit of £50.000...

So Much News my Head hurts way above my Head Soooooooooooo Confused!!!

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHeeeeeeeeellppp.... I wish I could turn the CLOCK BACK very WORRIED!!!!!!

ANYONE?

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 22/10/2008 - 14:01
If you have been an expat for

If you have been an expat for less than 15 years you can still vote in the last constituency that you lived in.

Posted by expatfrance1 on Wed, 22/10/2008 - 11:20
UK Citizens but Expats

How many of us can/do vote in UK elections? Probably not so many - due to the UK's daft rules on expat voting rights.
That is probably the only arithmetic that influences Gordon B's 'commitment'.

Posted by Francis on Wed, 22/10/2008 - 11:17
Wiki definition of IOM Citizens

Wiki definition

Citizenship
There is no separate Manx citizenship. Citizenship is covered by UK law, and Manx people are classed as British citizens. However, unlike other British Citizens from the UK, those defined as Manx under Protocol 3 have a special endorsement placed in their passports preventing them from freely living or working in EU states. Those Manx persons with a parent or grandparent born in the United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), or who have lived in the UK for five years, are deemed to have a sufficient relationship to the UK to not be subject to this provision

Posted by Andy Ish on Wed, 22/10/2008 - 04:14
Channel Islands Group

Here.

Posted by ng on Wed, 22/10/2008 - 00:33
Isle of Man used to be part of the Empire

Agree with both. All the evidence is, a high proportion us are just ordinary British people, outside of the UK. We wanted to leave our money, in sterling, somewhere "British". In my personal case I was hoping to be able to return to the UK (with my family) in the near future. Little hope of that now.

Posted by ng on Tue, 21/10/2008 - 11:44
GEO - EAST AFRICA

Can you please also add a new group Geo - East Africa.

I can see that there are few others on the forum from Kenya/Uganda/Tanzania area

Cheers

Posted by mikepapa on Tue, 21/10/2008 - 00:11
UK Citizen

One other point - where would exports (& whats left of the empire!) be without us?

Posted by icdbrazil on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 23:46
UK Citizen

Yes, and no longer proud of it. In fact absolutely disgusted with the way Gordon and his cronies have acted. I have worked many years for British companies in many countries, never been a burden on anybody, and now this. How long will it take for them to admit that they made a mistake (thats the difficult part) and make good?

Posted by icdbrazil on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 23:42
88% of us are UK citizens

Sorry for stating what's obvious (from the poll results to date), Gordon Brown really needs to start talking about British Savers (except for those who deposited in IoM)...

Posted by ng on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 23:24
Poll change done

I can't really cater for IoM citizen, if that's the right description, without making things very complex - I hope you will accept being lumped together under "non-UK".

Once the IoM Group is up, you can have a separate poll in there.

Posted by ng on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 18:47
New Groups

Ok, Portugal and IoM to be done shortly. Probably need to add Groups for UK too, probably by nearest city, so as to help with local link-up for meetings etc.

For future reference, please request Groups via the link (top of right side-bar) that says Request Site Editor Action.

Posted by ng on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 18:37
Not quiet correct

The restriction on working in the EU is a result of not having a link to the UK either directly, or through either parent or any grandparent (link being having lived there for a certain amount of time). It has nothing to do with the passport, and is a stamp that is placed within either a Manx-cover or a UK-cover passport.

For obvious reasons, most 'Manx' passport holders do not have this stamp.

The EU medical card is again nothing to do with passport, but it due to normal place of residence. Anybody resident in the Isle of Man is not eligible. Someone with a 'Manx' passport living in the UK is covered, just as someone with a US passport who was resident in the UK would be.

There is NO legal difference between the passports, it is merely a cosmetic thing.

Posted by cold-dose on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 18:36
IMPORTANT for IoM residents - Poll to be updated

Ok, I will update the poll to have specific IoM options. Those affected will need to cancel and re-vote. Will be done in a minute.

Posted by ng on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 18:26
IOM residents

I'm not sure about UK bank accounts, but I recently looked into UK Premium Bonds (a safe haven!), and the Isle of Man and Channel Islands are both classed as non-UK on the application, and as such, require tortuous KYC documentation (certified copy of passport, letter from tax office, etc), so I gave up. I suspect it would be the same if I wanted to open a UK bank account.

Posted by mollag on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 18:19
IOM PASSPORT

If only that were true! Because the Isle of Man is not a full member of the EU, anyone holding a Manx passport is not entitled to work freely in the EU, and is not entitled to free medical cover as we are not a party to the European Health Insurance Card scheme. No doubt there are other nuances as well. The Isle of Man is not part of the UK, but is part of Great Britain!

Posted by mollag on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 18:10
PURPOSE OF POLL?

It depends what the purpose of the poll is. If the intention is simply to highlight the high proportion of UK residents in support of your campaign to obtain 100% guarantee from Alistair Darling, OK. But then that is at the exclusion of all others. I would certainly be interested to see the proportion of IOM residents, and maybe we Manxies should be canvassing Alan Bell for a 100% guarantee for locals!

Posted by mollag on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 17:57
Voting twice

That is true. But I would suggest is not really worth it unless this is an issue for a lot of people - it won't significantly affect the results of the survey (poll).

Posted by ng on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 17:40
Can we have a Channel Islands

Can we have a Channel Islands Group?

Depositors under the jurisdiction of Jersey and Guernsey have no cover from our Governments, but as "offshore savers" are undoubtedly major depositors in IoM.

I have 2-way contact with one JSY depositor, and there was a Landsbanki depositors' meeting in Jersey last Friday which drifted on to Kaupthing matters. As small jurisdictions with our own Finance Industry, I suspect local pressure in the right places could prove fruitful.

Posted by go mann on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 17:18
geo portugal

please add geo group for portugal

Posted by jamjar on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 17:12
Depositors poll

The fact that so many of us are UK citizens is surely good news as it gives us more weight when petitioning the UK government to help to sort this mess out.

Everyone please keep registering your vote on this poll.

Posted by AJM UAE on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 15:03
Vote Twice

Probably easiest to register a second user to the forum, I am sure voting is done on user names and not IP Addresses

Posted by Mekong on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 05:15
Vote twice

Would like to vote twice as a joint account and two people involved.
How can I do that.

Posted by JD on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 04:59
British citizens

The people of the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are British Citizens just the same as the people of the UK, with citizenship law being an exclusive competence of the UK government - although 'UK citizen' here could be read as "British citizen with links to the UK".

If Expat was to renew his passport on the Isle of Man, he too would get one reading 'British Islands - Isle of Man' on the front, with a big Isle of Man coat of arms on the cover. It's just a distinctive design of passport issued by the Island's passport office, rather than stating anything special about the holder.

Posted by cold-dose on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 01:44
IoM vs UK

Thanks for that info. I continue to be confused about the true relationship between IoM and UK. When I put my money there, I thought it was "as good as" the UK.

Posted by ng on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 01:39
IOM

FYI This is from Wikipedia:
" Passports issued by the Isle of Man Passport Office say "British Islands - Isle of Man" on the cover but the nationality status stated on the passport is simply "British Citizen".

This means they are british (not uk) citizens but UK non-resident

Posted by mikeinfrance on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 00:56
IoM is non-UK resident

Recent events have made it very clear that IoM is not in part of the UK

That's said, maybe IoM should have been included specifically in the poll. I could add it (IoM residents would need to cancel and re-vote)

Posted by ng on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 00:29
IOM residents

I guess you are classed as british citizens non-UK residents,I'm not sure, but I agree that it would be very useful for you to have a separate classification.Out of interest are you permitted to have a bank account on the UK mainland if you're an IOM resident?

Posted by mikeinfrance on Mon, 20/10/2008 - 00:07
DEPOSITORS DISTRIBUTION POLL

What about Isle of Man residents?!

Posted by mollag on Sun, 19/10/2008 - 23:13
We (couple) are UK citizens

We (couple) are UK citizens non UK residents

Posted by btandkt on Sun, 19/10/2008 - 21:23