Read: IMPORTANT changes to Forums/Groups
Posted 22/07/2009 - 13:40 by ng
Now that there are relatively few users here, the whole Groups concept has become de-emphasized. It had its place at the time, and still has its uses (Geographical Groups for example), but for most purposes it now makes sense to return to the one big room scenario.
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Groups - An analogy
Consider two scenarios:
One big room with 500 people in it. All of them chatting to each other, all of them hearing what everybody else is saying. They tend to argue quite often as they don't all see eye to eye on all matters. Some of them don't even like each other but there's only one room. Every so often somebody comes up with an idea for how they might work together - a few people agree with it, a few disagree, but most of them just ignore it.
Fifty rooms each with 10 people in working together. The people In each room all know each other, and tend to agree on most subjects. Each room has a sign on the door to explain what work they are doing in that room. You can enter and leave rooms freely (surprisingly, it's even possible to be in several rooms at once!) If you're in a room you are expected to be helping with the work they're doing in there, but that's optional. In the corridor is a noticeboard where, every so often, people post a summary of the latest results from their room.
Please read: http://chat.ksfiomdepositors.org/node/4429
The changes are being made for a specific set of reasons, which I have tried to document extensively. Please follow the links from that page and read below...
Please think twice before posting into All Members
Please post into suitable groups (create a new project group if needed). Blog posts, remain independent (visible publicly) and are primarily intended for "announcements" as opposed to "discussions".
But, I want my post to be read and discussed by All Members!
If you want to ask a question, ask it in the Help group (it doesn't exist yet, but I hoping that somebody will notice that it would be a good idea to set one up, and then do just that.) If you want to make an announcement, use a blog post.
The basic strategy is for the site to be a teamwork platform facilitating collaborative effort on joint projects such as production of car stickers or a viral video. It is not, and never has been a news/PR site (that's what the public site was intended for.) It's not really a chat site either (at least not idle chat) - the word chat was chosen for historic reasons and suited the situation at the time. The public (www) site needs to be managed better (in terms of content) that's just one of the many projects that could be worked on.
Am I being dumb?
Since the beginning I envisaged DAG members forming teams and collaborating on projects where each project formed part of the one big project. I thought that's why people were here - because they wanted to work together towards a common goal. Of course, that has happened, but only in quite a limited way, considering the number of members. So, maybe I am very wrong about why people are here, maybe the majority of people just want to talk (or argue) and leave the actual work to others such as DST. So, if I've got it wrong, I apologise - let me know and I will give up on the teamwork platform concept.
What do you need to do differently?
Think about projects and teams that DAG needs to work towards its overall objective. Forget the forum concept. Think about collaboration, organisation and structure. Think about what activities need to be performed and what skills are needed to perform them. Of course, DCS is happening, Liquidation is happening. But what about public awareness, what about getting a result from HMG?
DAG is about people power
Hundreds of people working together towards a common goal. Organised, structured, motivated. Teams like well-oiled machines, intercommunicating and cross-communicating effectively. I like the sound of it, but I confess I am something of an idealist and maybe I am being unrealistic in this case. I am trying to provide the platform. But, you can only lead a horse to water...
If I am wrong
If I am wrong, we can switch to a simple forum system (actually already available at www.whenbankscrash.com) and my work here will be finished. If I am wrong I want to know - I am not asking you to agree with me, I want to know what YOU want. The teamwork platform concept is mine, not DST's, not HNW's, not Diver's, Hopper's nor anybody else. So, if it's not wanted it's only me who made a mistake.
Please vote on this poll to give me feedback as to whether a teamwork platform is actually something you want.