Funding and Donations

To finance KSFIoMDAG web-site and activities.

Here is the plan:

  • Donations will be displayed on the site with amount and user-name, unless the donor prefers either or both details to be withheld.

  • Details of expenditure will also be displayed on the site.

The target for these functions to be in place is Friday this week - 24 Oct. Adequate funding will help to achieve that.

_Please join this group if you hope to contribute, even if only a small amount or not immediately - this will help us identify potential sources of funding. For the same reason please do **not join the Group unless you do hope to be able to donate at some point._**

How should the IT/web function be handled?

Background and objectives: 


As most people here know, the DAG is in the process of forming as a legal entity. Thereafter, the IT function could logically be part of that. Whilst I stress that I have every confidence in the members of the DAG Strategy Team, I can nonetheless envisage some reasons why the IT/web function should perhaps be kept separate.

Some important functions of the IT/web role are:

  • Take decisions affecting the web-sites, content and functionality, try to plan for future needs.
  • Control access to privileged information such as email addresses and data from registration forms, etc.
  • Decide (very occasionally) whether content should be "censored", a member "blocked", etc.

Currently these things are done by me on a best effort basis, in communication with DAG Strategy Team members, and where relevant getting input from all site members via a poll etc. I also try to respond appropriately to input made directly to me via email from members, etc.

So, what are the options?

For simplicity, I am referring to the new formal entity below as simply DAG Ltd. The two fundamental options are:

  • DAG Ltd is in charge of IT/web. Funding comes from the DAG Ltd "pot" which in turn is funded by members and goes towards legal and other costs. The IT function reports to the DAG Ltd "management" and that team therefore ultimately controls the web sites and related data.

  • IT/web is independent - funding is provided directly by members, probably via a monthly or quarterly subscription. Ultimate control of the web-sites remains (as currently) with me or perhaps some other provider who might take over.

So really the choice is one of (a) control of web-sites and corresponding data and (b) funding process and simplicity or lack thereof. And can see positive and negatives to both approaches both from the DAG perspective and my personal perspective. There is potentially a third option which would be some combination of the two routes.

Who should take the decisions?

Another question might be who in the DAG as a whole would be the best person to take strategic decisions for the group's IT needs. For those who have never looked, you can find information about me here and here Unfortunately I am not in a position to be involved here on a purely voluntary basis, and that factor alone might be considered positive or negative (I would personally not like to be operated on by a volunteer heart surgeon.)


A real-life and recent example is that there is a sub group on the site (non-divisive) who wanted to have a private area here to continue their discussions. If the DAG Ltd were in charge of the site, then presumably they would be allowed to access that private area or indeed decide that such a private area should not be allowed. Whilst I (if still involved) would make input, it would not be my decision.

In summary

The DAG as a whole (or at least those members who are likely to contribute to IT/web funding) need to decide which approach is best. I don't feel that this decision should be taken without consulting the DAG membership as a whole, hence I'm posting this poll.

Related: web-sites and IT funding - survey

IT/web should be entirely controlled by the new DAG Ltd entity
38% (81 votes)
IT/web should remain independent, as currently
39% (85 votes)
Some combination of the above is needed
23% (50 votes)
Total votes: 216

Privacy / Security tips

Posted 11/02/2009 - 02:02 by ng

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I seem to be mentioning this topic a lot recently, and some people might wonder if there's some kind of inherent risk here.


Posted 05/02/2009 - 07:42 by cottesmore

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It has come as quite a shock to me that out of 2372 members on this forum, only 19 of us contributed to the upkeep of this site in January.Many of you claim it's your 'lifeline' yet, are not prepared

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Posted 03/02/2009 - 06:18 by Relentless Posse

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I have always advocated action day in day out.

One day lost is another day waiting.

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Posted 13/12/2008 - 21:34 by Grahame Leon-Smith

Sat, 13/12/2008
Link: Depositors-2230

IT Donations

Posted 01/12/2008 - 02:39 by ng

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In the short-term, I've finally admitted defeat and set this up.

Update: let's apply a little technology - for PayPal donations:

Buying the Bank

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Anyone have any thoughts on getting the IOM Government to take over the bank with a guarantee to depositors once it is in a healthy state. They stand to lose a substantial amount themselves...

New Group - Funding and Donations

Posted 20/10/2008 - 14:53 by ng

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Very shortly (pending on server upgrade which should be happening today) there will be a pledge facility in place. Next step will be actual donations.

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