MPS -we are NOT getting through

  • bellyup
  • 10/10/08 09/01/10
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Posted: Thu, 11/06/2009 - 05:16

I have in the last week met with one MP and been in communication by email with two others.

And one thing is painfully obvious.

WE ARE NOT GETTING THROUGH TO THEM

I quote from one

'One of the things that does concern me is that the Action Group just do
not seem to be sending MPs up to date briefings. I have seen the odd
e-mail but it does seem to be incredibly disjointed, and furthermore
they should be producing really easy to understand literature that is
updated on a regular basis, which can be handed to MPs.

I am fortunate because I have 3 constituents involved and I receive
regular updates from them..........

Also, it is worth bearing in mind that MPs receive literally thousands
of e-mails a week, so sending e-mails is really no good at all unless
you happen to know that the recipient understands the subject and is
prepared to read them.

IS ANYONE COORDINATING THE UK MP COMMUNICATION?

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write again and again

  • bellyup
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  • Tue, 16/06/2009 - 22:23

Everyone.

DO SOMETHING POSITIVE TODAY.

WRITE AGAIN TO YOUR MP.

If possible WRITE A LETTER.

We have to keep this up and show them we do not intend to go away.

Think of it as a war of attrition we must keep up awareness of our situation with our MPS.


bellyup is dead right

  • ItsTheft
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  • Tue, 16/06/2009 - 23:04

MP's have been fobbing us off with the standard replies that work with 99% of constituent corresponance they get;

  • Its an IOM issue.

  • Nothing I can do.

  • I have written to the Chancellor (that is my pet-hate one! We can do that, MP's must stand in the commons and ask questions!!!)

  • You are not my consituent (again, a pet-hate! This is a national issue!!).

MP's are happiest when we just go away and stop writing to them. Means they can sign-off the issue and get on with other stuff (Cynical part of me says, play golf, play with PA's etc...).

A number of people on this site have say before belly-up that the MP's who DO support us have expressed suprise at the lack of correspondance coming in over the last 9 months (9 Months!!!!! Bl**dy hell!!!!). We MUST FIX THAT and get more letters/emails/faxes being sent to MPs. All of us.

We ARE being forgotten in the UK. It is as simple as that. If we give up with trying to get UK MP's to start asking tough questions of the Chancellor and lobby him to use the powers he has to return the money at the centre of this, then we have lost.

Doing will get things done, talk of doing wont.


FSA Misled Commons committee

  • darrmont
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MPs say FSA misled Select Committee over Iceland - papers
Friday 12th June 2009: 09:30
By IFAonline
The Financial Services Authority (FSA) may have deliberately misled the committee over Icelandic banks, MPs have claimed, The Telegraph reports.

In a hard-hitting report the Communities and Local Government Committee, which is investigating why local authorities deposited more than £1bn with Icelandic banks, criticised the regulator.

"Answers from the FSA are unhelpful to the point where we wonder whether they might constitute deliberate obfuscation", MPs on the committee claimed. The public criticism is deeply embarrassing for the FSA.

Alongside the criticism of the FSA's evidence, the MPs also accused the regulator of abrogating its responsibilities to regulate treasury management advisers.

"We strongly suspect that the clear answer to our question of what steps the FSA has actually taken to regulate treasury advisers is "none". Given the large sums which are in stake in local authority treasury management, we consider this to be an abrogation of responsibility," wrote the MPs.


FSA Misled Commons committee new

  • grapow
  • 20/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Sat, 13/06/2009 - 08:41

Excellent posting, thanks Darrmount, I have used this again to challenge by MP (Dr Liam Fox - Conservative), not that I am holding my breath on either the quality or speed of his reply. My note to him is copied under, might be worth us all doing the same thing?

EXTRACT FROM MY MAIL, FOLLOWS:

For the attention of Dr Liam Fox (MP)

Will this nightmare ever end?

I am copying below an article from a creditable Journal which now claims that the FSA intentionally hid the truth from numerous local authorities who continued to plough huge sums of money into Icelandic banks. Our own investment with Kaupthing Singer and Friedlander (Isle of Man) would have been avoided had FSA made its knowledge known.

Surely this in isolation to everything else means the HMG must have massive responsibility – does this finally give Dr Fox opportunity to attack the Government, this is now a scandal of monumental proportions affecting the lives of circa 10,000 UK tax-payers and shows what a criminal bunch the Government/FSA is with the opposition, apparently impotent and meaningless. This whole thing is almost farcical and we are the losers!

The article follows; as ever I await Dr Fox’s opinion with some interest.

Extract from IFA online:

MPs say FSA misled Select Committee over Iceland - papers
Friday 12th June 2009: 09:30
By IFAonline
The Financial Services Authority (FSA) may have deliberately misled the committee over Icelandic banks, MPs have claimed, The Telegraph reports.

In a hard-hitting report the Communities and Local Government Committee, which is investigating why local authorities deposited more than £1bn with Icelandic banks, criticised the regulator.

"Answers from the FSA are unhelpful to the point where we wonder whether they might constitute deliberate obfuscation", MPs on the committee claimed. The public criticism is deeply embarrassing for the FSA.

Alongside the criticism of the FSA's evidence, the MPs also accused the regulator of abrogating its responsibilities to regulate treasury management advisers.

"We strongly suspect that the clear answer to our question of what steps the FSA has actually taken to regulate treasury advisers is "none". Given the large sums which are in stake in local authority treasury management, we consider this to be an abrogation of responsibility," wrote the MPs.


@darrmont

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  • Fri, 12/06/2009 - 12:24

neither the FSA or UK Govt really care. Unfortunately we got caught up in a high level strategy to rapidly prevent the transition of wealth from West to East because of the impending "crunch". Iceland was being used as a major conduit in this process and was subsequently closed down. This involved "agencies" from both UK and USA. There are agents from the UK agencies working in high level positions here as there is in every offshore jurisdiction who get rewarded handsomly for their actions within the jurisdiction.
The high level strategy has been achieved and no one cares about the fall out for small fry like ourselves.
We are in the hands of the liquidator now who should be working for us. He is getting paid by us. Problem with the Isle of Man is that some professionals have little concept or understanding of conflict. We have experienced a lot of this already. I believe that the current PL should be declaring a conflict after all the work he appears to have been putting in to promote the SoA and by giving IoMG the banks database.
Not sure if other depositors appreciate this.


@hampnew

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  • Sat, 13/06/2009 - 10:28

Hampnew: Indeed, indeed, but I believe there are a goodly number of us that do appreciate this situation only too well.
Ice


MP's

  • Grahame
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  • Fri, 12/06/2009 - 08:51

I have sent many letters to William Hague and always get a reply. He is doing all he can to help us. The latest letter from DAG was sent to him and he sent it on to Alistair Darling along with his own letter. He will send me Darlings reply, if he ever gets one!


Name and shame website

  • ItsTheft
  • 10/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Fri, 12/06/2009 - 04:50

www.ksfiom.com also on www.theukgovernment.com is naming and shaming dud MP's. It also has some interesting observations. It has a contact form which i have used to send details of my MP and they went up quite quickly. I also have a link to it in all emails i now send so to get it as widely known about as possible. I too have heard that MPs are suprised by the lack of correspondance they are getting. Some depositors have sent, and continue to, lots but it is still a very very small proportion. I too think that the only real solution will come from HMG and at the moment we are hardly being heard at all.


Hague & Farrell

  • dj
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  • Fri, 12/06/2009 - 12:22

Has anyone let that ksfiom site know? If not, i'll flick hague's and farrell's names through as 'decent' MPs... Any examples?


MPS -we are NOT getting through

  • grapow
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  • Thu, 11/06/2009 - 14:49

What a load of tripe! (That is aimed at the MP responsible for this comment NOT Bellyup!), I must have sent 30 emails to my MP (Dr Liam Fox), I only ever get the attention of his rather pompous PA and her advice is aged and in-aapropriate, broadly as much help as a chocolate Tea-pot. I must only assume that any MP takes the approach of ignore, ignore, ignore and the buggars will eventually go away.... well it works, I have given up through this channel.


Dr. Liam Fox's Protection Money Expenses

  • margaretta
  • 22/11/08 31/05/09
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  • Fri, 12/06/2009 - 12:57

Have you tried the different tactic of ramping up the publicity about the money he was paying to his local Conservative association as protection money for keeping him selected as MP and then putting it through as an expense for usage of their office facilities? It won't make him any more interested in your problem but it might get rid of him as MP in which case you would have a chance with whoever his replacment is.


Getting through to MPs

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  • Thu, 11/06/2009 - 11:34

Even though I am no longer a registered UK voter, I have received carefully drafted letters in reply to each of my four emails to Paul Farrelly MP - member of the British Manx All Party Parliamentary Group.

He seems to be fully aware of and sympathetic to our plight.


@Dr James

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  • Thu, 11/06/2009 - 15:07

I am glad that your have had such a good response from your MP .
What is his advice?


I have written many letters

  • davemeredithlondon
  • 11/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Thu, 18/06/2009 - 07:49

I have written many letters to Kelvin Hopkins MP (Luton North) and only received one brief "I will forward your comments to the chancellor' reply. After that nothing. Of course I never got any 'forwarded comments' either.
He appears totally uninterested and unconcerned in our plight.
I have also written to alistair darling and he has never bothered to reply.
I think they hope that by ignoring us we will go away and they will escape and be let off the hook for their crimes.
So don't give up guys...they know they are responsible directly or indirectyly and we have to help them to se that and then to put things right.