IOMG turning up the heat?

  • kiwi38
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Have a look at what Manx Radio have just reported Alan Bell has said today. He is obviously trying to divide and conquer.

I find it hard to understand how anyone can trust the IOMG and believe a single word that comes out of the mouth of Bell or Spellman.

http://www.manxradio.com/newsread.aspx?id=33824

Comments are invited so I suggest you send them one...

DAG - how will you respond to this?

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A lot of spin but absolutely no substance

  • klauseriksen
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http://www.iomtoday.co.im/isle-of-man-business/39Isle-of-Man-must-go.505...

It is clear that the IOMG think they can simply spin their way out of this one.
Fooled once, twice shy I say. Instead of wasting time and money on PR you should do what every other Western government has done and guarantee savers cash 100%.
The only winners from your current action are the PR firms and the lawyers as the truth is already out and people will eventually move their money to places where they have a 100% savers guarantee.


Daily Express Wed 11th

  • sleepless uk
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Has anyone read the article in Money Matters in yesterdays paper by Annie Shaw in CashQuestions.com,in answer to a reader's question as to how safe her cash was in Anglo Irish IOM,the reply basically said that you are lucky to be underwritten by the Irish guarantee,as long as the Irish Gov survive,as the IOM DCS has no funds and has to be derived from a levy with no guarantee as to timings. We already know this, but i suggest that we e-mail her and see if she is interested in a follow up article highlighting the various failures of IOM gov,FCS etc and the position of penury a lot of us have been left in.I will mail her today.


Money matters

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I WOULD BE GRATEFUL IF YOU COULD LET ME KNOW WHICH PAPER ANNIE SHAW REPORT WAS IN.


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  • sleepless uk
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Broke. The Annie Shaw report was in Wednesday,s Daily Express. In Money Matters. I have mailed her but as yet not had a reply.


Anyone reading half of the

  • Ronague Ram
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Anyone reading half of the rantings on this site would have to see IOMG as sensible and balanced by comparison. I have been on board since the outset but this is the first time I have decided to post. I am a depositor and have a significant amount involved and 100% return is the ultimate goal. Yet my frustration with the ridiculous paranoia from conspiracy theorists of which I see many on this site has run its course. We are all entitled to our own views, but read the site - there is not total unity in views. Some favour the SOA and others don't. Some like the early payment scheme and some don't. How can Bell be wrong in respect of his comments on the unity of depositors. People should not assume we are all in agreement as ulitmately we are all individuals in differing circumstances. One scheme may not suit everyone and ultimately the majority will decide. Just be glad we were not banking in Guernsey or Jersey. I don't hear of them making such efforts as IOMG has!


Sense at last !

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Hi Ronague,

You should have known better than to make a comment of any sort. I gave up ages ago. If it goes against "the party line" prepare to be shot down.

You talk sense and I am glad to hear that there are still rational forum members online. I only dip in every now and again as I get depressed by the "waffle" that appears on it. This is my first time in over a month.
Gives me hope that the lunatics haven't yet gained complete control of the asylum.


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  • bellyup
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I agree cant stand waffle, lies or any other kind of BS

We KSFIOM long suffering depositors would like 100% of our OWN savings returned to us whilst we are still alive .

Can you report this back to the IOMG please?


IOMG at it again?

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I along with one or two others did caution following the last hearing that it was likely that the IOMG would commence a campaign designed to push through the IOMG preferred option. From reading Ronague Ram's missive it seems to fall fairly and squarely into yet another botched attempt by the IOMG at a dirty tricks campaign.

Those who believe that governments do not run dirty tricks campaigns to suit their own ends may well support RR's comments. The majority I'm certain will see it for what it is!

RR - Have you read everything on this site as I note that you only joined us 4 weeks ago?


@Done like a Kipper: Error .. 14 wks I day.

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Detail is important even at this stage.
In fact probably more important because the substantive work is being done out of sight of this site.

This person was a member 14 wks 1 day ago. Exactly why he didn't want to say whether he was a depositor or not if he had a "substantial" deposit amuses me. But it was his choice. If he can't be bothered, or is incapable of putting forward his case whilst being so dismissive of the muchidumbre then this says more of him than us.

I feel like one of the last of the group at the Alamo here right now.

Brown, the Chief Minister of IoMG appears to me be just barely up to speed. When I listen to his statements in front of the Tynwald I feel embarassed for him, he trips up over normal English grammar, I'm in SAm and I have to accomodate two+ grammars because each country is different. Bell is in my opinion his normal weasel self. And I stress here, in case I am quoted, that this is my opinion. These guys sell the cheapness of the IoM to create work for their population. Just why are they using contractors for the doing their dirty work (Spellman & Alix partners)? I was a software engineer/team leader/analyst/programmer... I am very familiar with the characteristics of contractors and those that hire them. In my last contract I watched the computing equivalent of the 'credit crisis' emerged. I was so disgusted I talked to Nick Cohen, whistleblower like.

We are in this situation. We are being fleeced. Now do you want to gear up and fight these apologists, or do you want to rollover?


Well Said Ronague Ram

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Totally agree with you, some of the commnets on here are as bad as anything that the IOMS say or do. The ones on this are the ones who dont want the SOA and as they dont want it they are doing their best to make sure no one else does either. The SOA seems to what is favoured by the majority and hopefully it will continue as the only was ahead for the MAJORITY.


giveusbackourfunds what do you base your statement on?

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The only poll that has been run to gauge peoples opinion about their preferences show:
13% for DCS,
53% for liquidation
i.e. 66% for liquidation with DCS
whereas the SOA only gets 35% of the votes. hence your opinion that a majority prefer the SOA is contradictionary to the available facts


klausriksen

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Your poll figures are based on who does the poll and as now the people under £50K seem to be happy with the situation they are mosy likely not even going on this site no more to read some of the wrong information that is here. The ones left are the over £50K who seem to be doing thier utmost to come up with whatever idea they dream up for some kind on "imaginary solution" or they spend time moaning about the IOMG forgetting we are a small Island aslo (like Iceland) and so could not do the same as other governments.


giveus <50k

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"people under £50K seem to be happy with the situation"

I'm not happy, Mr giveusbackourfunds. Not at all. And tripe like that doesn't lift my mood.

You know what they say about people who live on little islands?


steenjp

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As only 3 peolpe have made a comment suggests you have answered my point (I would guess you are all over the £50K), bet no one in the below will disagree !!

I would be interested to know if anyone under £50K even goes on this anymore !!


I am sub 50k

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I am sub 50k and in fact I am even sub EPS2, but I still come on the forum often.


giveus backourfunds

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May i point out that voting goes on size of deposit as well as numbers so although the sub 50 K's are all dancing round according to you, the fact is that the SOA requires a 75% vote to get it through. Not too likely from what i have read!!!


Monkeyface

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So what is your fantastic alternative ?


"I'm still here", said Go

  • go mann
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"I'm still here", said Go Mann, in a cheerful voice.

I do however try to avoid getting into discussions that's don't concern me, as my views would naturally be tailored by personal circumstance - I have £11k in KSFIOM, and will be getting £10k back in the near future.

It would be wrong of me to start wittering about issues affecting those with £xxx,xxx or more.


Go Mann

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Could you please contact me by e-mail (use forum contact facility or my direct e-mail address, which is l(?)thux [dot] net)


and I am "still here" and

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and I am "still here" and ditto what go mann says.


Supporting the group

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My husband and I have 55,000 pounds in a joint account and I am just about to contribute the 0.2% suggested 110 pounds sterling for the legal aid . We have contributed all along because we feel people have helped and supported us and we want to help EVERYONE get their money back. We are not well off but feel morally responsible not to just take our money and not care about anyone else. My husband is Egyptian and he is always telling his friends "These people are amazing , they don't just sit back and complain , they take action and support each other ".


I'm not a big depositor but I'm definitely still here

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There are many smaller depositors still here AND we vote too. I think we'll all be here until we get our money back - some of us are commited to staying until EVERYONE is sorted out so please don't make assumptions.


giveusbackourfunds, you should chose a different user name

  • klauseriksen
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Maybe you should have called yourself "giveMEbackMYfundsandtohellwitheveryoneelse". The problem is that we have been waiting now for 6 Months for the IOM to come up with a solution and all they have done is tried to play games as for example the exchange rate issue where they tried to pull a fast one on all the foreign currency depositors. It is clear to me you suffer from the same small island mentality as the IOMG and that it is only local people like you they are trying to benefit with their little schemes. I for one have no great problem in the IOM trying to put a scheme together for the small savers like you but it has to be done without detrimental effect to the rest of us and that has not been the case as we have been waiting a long time now without receiving any of our funds which we would have had the bank been liquidated in an orderly fashion.
On a more general term I think it is time for the larger depositors to wake up and realize they have to fight for themselves as I get the impression that you are not alone in your opinions among the small local IOM savers.


@giveus backourfunds - Small Islands

  • skintagainnow
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Sorry giveus backourfunds that argument simply doesn't hold water, forgetting we are a small Island aslo (like Iceland) and so could not do the same as other governments.

http://www.gov.im/investiniom/gdp.xml

IoM GDP per head £22,587

http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Caribbean/Antigua-and-Barbuda/gdp-per...

Antigua $12,968 GDP per head (note USD)

Antigua is a small Island in the sun with a much lower GDP than IoM and has recently vouch saved all depositors 100%, so that argument doesn't hold water.

The fact remains the IoMG is taking a very narrow minded view, is not looking at the long term future of it's main industry, nor is it taking heed of the another report it commissioned in March 2008 ie the PAG (Progressive Action Group) report, made up from I believe Islanders.

& if I'm not mistaken, Iceland also vouch saved all it's depositors in Iceland in the banks?


small islands

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Press agency brief 12 March -
"ICELAND
GOVERNMENT TARGETS BANK CREDITOR SETTLEMENT IN APRIL
Copenhagen - Iceland expects to reach an agreement with creditors of its failed banks as early as next month ..., a cabinet minister said. The government may offer creditors at the failed banks the option of becoming equity holders in new banks the state created after seizing the lenders in October, Minister of Business Affairs Gylfi Magnusson said in a phone interview from Reykjavik on Tuesday. The government may also try to persuade creditors to accept longer maturities on obligations, he said. We don't obviously need to have the same solutions for all of the cases so we'll be quite flexible".

Does anybody know if the UK govt is representing the IoM in any of this and to what extent KSFIoM is involved?

I asked last week what MSimpson knows about the UK govt's discussions on Iceland's IMF loan obligations after the official response Ian Pearson gave to UK MPs questions.
I asked for that question to be put to MSimpson but was ignored.

If the UK govt is in fact in discussions with Iceland on behalf of the IoM govt over matters like the above, then why would we be indifferent to it? Isn't Iceland part of any chance we have of improving overall return of our deposits? And isn't it MSimpson's job to maximise recoveries from whatever source?

Is this something the DAG legal people should look at?


PAG Submissions

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Hi skintagainnow,
The Report to which you point can be found as the 2 submissions at the bottom of the page : http://chat.ksfiomdepositors.org/forum-topic/fsc-consultation-review-dcs...


TD -- :-) U 2

  • skintagainnow
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Yep! I put them on the site a few weeks ago too -

:-) Doesn't hurt to keep reminding people of these reports that the politicians choose to ignore.

Just to keep in perspective population of Antigua is 72,000 as of Jan 2009, IoM population 88,000, main industries Banking & Tourism, very similar -- just one is in the Gulf Stream and the other is where the Gulf Stream originates.


@klauseriksen: nice one

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Whilst saying "nice one" I am aware that the subsidy that IoMG is offering, whilst very small is something. And I feel that rejecting -something- has questionable sense.

But I am reinvigorated by the seeing by seeing that we, as a group are not being fooled by the rhetoric of IoMG.

We need to keep a clear head. We need current data to decide. We need to understand that the figures change with the changing situation. But we also need to understand that the figures are changing somewhat predictably and that the procrastination of IoMG is possibly to be seen as cynically advantageous for themselves.

We need more information. We need a formal,open, fair, just, negotiation process with IoMG.

We await their response because at present they are not negotiating.

Remember this: They feel they have the advantage. I am not interested in advantage, I want something that is just. Where do IoMG get off thinking they can take take advantage of their clients?


I think you may be being

  • expatfrance1
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I think you may be being slightly selective in the facts you are quoting. The poll that I have seen on this site suggest 17% in favour of the DCS and 15% in favour of the SoA (the remainder in favour of another solution), not quite as decisive as you would suggest. Another poll says that 93% feel they do not have another information to make a decision!

Anyone looking at the positings on this sight can see that there are a number of viewpoints and it was most probably this that Allan Bell was commenting on. The only common view is that there should be a 100% return and from what I can see neither liquidation/DCS or the SoA prevent this. And before someone says it, I am not an IOM government mole, just an ordinary depositor who has a mind of his own and objects to being told what I should or shouldnt be doing. I will make my decision when the time comes based on the facts.

There seem to be a number of posters who have completely lost the plot, suggesting that anyone who makes a comment that questions their view must be an IOM spy or the anti-christ. I am even beginning to think that even if the IOM were to offer 100% return of deposits there would be some who would refuse it as an IOM trap!

And whilst talking about 'conspiracy' theories, do not forget that there are also possibly other people posting on this site who are not depositors but could have a financial interest in influencing one outcome over another and which would not necessaraly benefit depositors!


Bell and DAG

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So Bell is reading/monitoring our site--I sincerely hope so!

You are a hypocrit and a lier Bell---as is proven beyond reasonable doubt in your previous debacle with the Mount issue--why don't you sign up(depositor or not or maybe past depositor who jerked your funds on the nod) which lodge do you attend---same as Bishop and DD?

Maybe you should take sick leave again.

Your feeble attempts to disrupt our activity are just that.

I bet you are also p****ed off that Aspden earns more than you do.

This should be in the jokes section---you are paying ALIX and co 532,000 GBP for what????????

God only knows what you will pay Moss and co.

Your bill will be a million quid for what??????

Back of 2 envelopes ---a bit more than the Icelandic guarantee(only 1 envelope but foc)

You are wasting money and time with your prevarication.

Why are you spending a million quid of tax payers money ---to cover up?

You already wasted 2 million on the airport project--how much more?

I am surprised that you don't get demos like in iceland outside the Tinyworld or are all your constituents dim?--I don't think so--they are mushrooms--kept in the dark and fed horse shit.


@bob -- usernames ASPDEN & IOMG ????

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Bobwin, we have usernames on the site of ASPDEN and IOMG -- could it be ASPDEN is THE Aspden , and who is the person behind IOMG ???

Whatother user names or persons do we have from the folks running that show, real or hidden.


User names

  • bobwin
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Don't know m8 but aspden is not common--nor IOMG--let them read, I don't care ---let them know they are aerosoles!


What a bummer, I've never

  • IceCrusher
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What a bummer, I've never seen an 'aerosole' and I've been flying a long time!


@Icecrusher

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Think you will find that IOMG is Special Agent Spellman. You will also see VICK, think that is the CEO of the IPA, there are others.

Been advised that several corporations involved have their moles monitoring this site.
It has been monitored for a long time as they naturally want to find out what DAG knows and what the general public think of them. After all they have done nothing wrong!

I understand that is why the other site was opened up where I have been told that all the "meaty" legal advice and leaked documents are disseminated and discussed. Guess they will find that eventually.

I hear that there is a great deal of support for our predicament from many workers within government departments. There are many government workers who are depositors but who can not come forward at the moment and can not have a voice, been advised that they have their own action group which is working tirelessly in support.


@expatfrance 1 : 100% would be perfect.

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We are getting confused.
We are fighting amongst ourselves.
This is madness.

Take this weekend to think.
On Monday post your ideas.
We will talk then.

Bale. Piensa este fin de semana.
Lunes, vamos a poner nuestras ideas.
Despues una polemica.

Ten cuidado.
David


@giveus backourfunds: I really do give up with you.

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And a lot of the comments that are "as bad as anything that the IoMS say or do" come from you.

What you seem to be suggesting is known rather theatrically as 'the dictatorship of the majority'. Fortunately to some extent the law protects us against your attitudes.

You really are a irritating little mischief maker. Your 21K is bombproof. Your own government is committed under the DCS. If your own government can't make the DCS operate then I suggest you direct your attentions to taking it to task.

Meanwhile under the SoA, which I believe the IoMG stated was to benefit everyone and not just the majority, there have been certain problems, and still remain certain problems. And these problems affect enough people sufficiently that it is sensible that they vote the SoA down if the problems aren't resolved.

The issues have been on the table for a long time. Your, and I stress your, government, is not responding.
I suggested the other day that you read the 3rd affidavit of David Lovett. Did you?
And now I suggest you read the affidavits of the insurance cos for the hearing on the 19th Feb.

I have invited specific responses from you after some of your other rather uninformed pieces. You never reply.
You just seem to want to jump up and down shouting your opinion. Which is a little of what Ronague Ram was complaining about.

You seem to be on a steep learning curve. As I've said before there are different preferences for resolution of this situation because people are in different postions. You opinion that it's OK for the majority to ram (what was the guys' name - Ronague Ram?) their opinion down the throats of the minority doesn't sit well with me.

To resolve all these issues we negotiate. That's what negotiation is for. Negotiation is so often a really tiresome process, but it's better than fighting, than shouting at each other from different sides of the street.
One of the things I'm irritated by is that IoMG's style is not good negotiating style.

Señor Ronague Ram seems disappointed somehow that there isn't unity, but like ng says, has he taken the time to understand why? As for you 'giveus backourfunds' you seemed scared to death and as far as I can see you are in absolutely no danger of losing any of your nominal deposit. You rather seem to be being awfully cavalier with other peoples money. If I remember correctly you stated you worked in a bank? Let me know which bank it is so I can avoid it, but then again it's on the IoM and I won't be banking there again.

Have a nice day.


Ronague Ram, apparently not to be trusted

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Ronague Ram, are you sure? - You have only ever visited three different threads on this site (logged in as Ronague Ram) and the vast majority of threads are invisible to those not logged in. Conclusion, you haven't read more than a tiny fraction of the "rantings" here, let alone "half" of them, therefore your opinion is completely uninformed. As it stands, I would agree with others who have concluded that Ronague Ram is a "plant". By all means contact me if you'd like to set the record straight,


Anyone reading

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I disagree RR anyone with half a mind can see that the IOMG is doing everything it can to delay proceedings.

Other countries have supported their depositors.

Not shilly shallied and tried to push the blame on the people who entrusted them with their money.

They have nothing to lose they already profited by our business for many years so they can be calm and sensible.

We on the other hand stand to lose our life savings.

But now push comes to shove they want to shove us out of their minds.

One MHK member actually asked if Alix was going to be paid by the proceeds from the bank.?

That is all we need we need.


IOMG Pathetic

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Good point from Bellyup. Can you imagine any other Government getting into a verbal arguement with its country's bank depositors ?

Surely, instead of making petty remarks about us they should be working to safeguard all depositors like every other government has done.

They are pathetic !


Pathetic I of Man

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Totally agree, they are pathetic. Led by an electrician (Brown) and a hairdresser (Bell) (now seemingly with no hair - see the picture of him after his recent comment about us not having a unified goal). They also make me sick...


@bellyup

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I think you can excuse them, they probably have other things on their mind!

Only tied up in a corruption scandal!

Special agent Spellman is probably sorting that one out for them as well!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/11/antigua-isle-of-man


OK everybody

  • bellyup
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100% of US WANT 100% OF OUR RIGHTFUL SAVINGS BACK.

IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH MR BELL?

CAN YOU DO THAT PLEASE?


Discipline

  • WorriedWoman
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I do not believe that the letter came from within the depositors group, but is an attempt by the IoM government to divide us. It is part of a dirty tricks campaign that will continue up to and probably beyond April 9th.

We must not lose focus. We must continue to be a stone in their shoe and fight for every penny of OUR money.

Alan Bell is not an ally, he is the watchman who fell asleep on the job when our money was being stolen. He and his government are at best negligent and at worst complicit.


Well done Caroline

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  • Wed, 11/03/2009 - 14:27

Whoever you are, well done on this coverage. United for 100%!

http://www.manxradio.com/newsread.aspx?id=33889


Allan Bell

  • tsunamivictim
  • 11/10/08 n/a (free)
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  • Wed, 11/03/2009 - 08:19

Remember this is the same Allan Bell who was described as corrupt by the Commissioners of the Mount Murray affair.
He defended this by saying it was to protect the reputation of the Isle of Man.
So what else can we we expect of him?


Keys question time Tuesday am.

  • follow_the_tao
  • 11/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Wed, 11/03/2009 - 04:53

Worth listening to the whole questioning in the keys. The snippet give with the text of the news item is brutally short.

Manx radio ... listen again... Tuesday ..... Keys question 1

from min 11 to min 19

http://www.manxradio.com/audiovault/Keys-1.wma

Alix partners have cost 532K to end of feb.


100% please Mr Bell

  • Yorkie
  • 13/10/08 10/12/09
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  • Tue, 10/03/2009 - 18:29

Just added my comments. Mr Bell is quoted as saying: "depositors no longer seemed to speak with one unified voice." Let's remind him, just in case he has had fluff in his ears or the wrong specs on, that what we all want is 100% of our deposits returned to us.


DAG response to Allan Bell's comments

  • Nixi
  • 20/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Tue, 10/03/2009 - 17:55

Nixi - Irish Sea not North Sea

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  • 10/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Tue, 10/03/2009 - 18:03

Nixi - The DAG response requires urgent change --- Irish Sea not North Sea


The Bishops Letter

  • Tricky Dicky
  • 24/10/08 30/05/09
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  • Tue, 10/03/2009 - 17:53

A full copy of this letter can be found here on the IOM Today web site http://www2.iomtoday.co.uk/pdfs/KSFIOM_Bishop_100309.pdf .
I note it is not addressed to any in particular, but would assume it is directed to members of IOMG or FSC etc rather than being sent directly to the Bishop.