How many Clucas's are there?

  • Knife Edge
  • 10/10/08 31/05/09
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Posted: Thu, 12/02/2009 - 18:02

I've received a response to an e-mail I sent to Tynwald from a Christine Clucas on behalf of all [sic] the members of the Tynwald, basically stalling and repeating the party line about seeking the best solution for depositors and the IOM. I don't know

I also note that Bruce Clucas is a director of Cains is representing "our" bank, KSFIOM.

Is Clucas a very common surname on the IOM or are these two related? If they are related, then surely they have a conflict of interest that someone needs to have waived on our behalf.

I realise the IOM is a small place and therefore conflicts such as this are likely to arise in practice as well as on paper, but this is a sensitive issue and the conflict is significant, in my view. Not a major point, probably, but we may as well nail them on everything we can if this goes the way it seems to be going.

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"I also note that Bruce

  • Beesa
  • 11/03/09 31/05/09
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  • Wed, 11/03/2009 - 16:16

"I also note that Bruce Clucas is a director of Cains is representing "our" bank, KSFIOM."

This is Peter Bruce Clucas. Rarely goes under the name of Bruce and is known as Peter Clucas. His father however, was Bruce, a very well respected and decent honest chap. I am not sure I can say the same for Peter. In fact no, I cannot.

The mention of this name sends a shiver down my spine. He doesn't like losng I was told by our own advocate (in another matter). He will do ANYTHING to win a case.

Be aware that the legal community are (mostly) all very close and many of the senior lawyers went to the same fee paying school on the Island. Do not expect impartiality from the Deemsters either. They were, after all, once rubbing shoulders and enjoying the very lucrative 'cut and thrust' of the court rooms with their fellow advocates before promotion to the judiciary.

I wish you all luck. You will need it.


Common Names

  • Tricky Dicky
  • 24/10/08 30/05/09
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  • Thu, 12/02/2009 - 18:23

Clucas is a common name on IOM as is Cain's, have a look at the 'full' listing of staff in the FSC and see how many names are common not only within the FSC, but also with others in IOMG : http://www.gov.im/fsc/about/makingcontact.xml


Enhancing the gene pool

  • gerry paul johnson
  • 13/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Thu, 12/02/2009 - 19:00

It is very common on small islands for there to be high degree of "inter-marrying". As an expat scot, I am only too well aware that the real reason that there are so many sheep on these islands is to enhance the gene pool. Sadly any enhancement is likely to come about too later to be of any value to Tony Brown.


LOL

  • bellyup
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  • Thu, 12/02/2009 - 19:32

Gerry I have to smile !


How many Clucas's are there?

  • Dismayed
  • 12/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Thu, 12/02/2009 - 18:26

50 in the phone book. A common name here on the Island & very Manx.

Manx (abbreviation) form of MacLucas = Son of Luke: Luke [Manx Gaelic MacLucais, genitic of Lucas].


80,000 inhabitants Only

  • bobwin
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  • Fri, 13/02/2009 - 09:46

So what you guys are saying is that the whole Island has been interbreeding for 1000 years.

This now explains the whole sad scenario----village idiots was the old term for products of inter breeding I believe.

That also explains the silly beard and moustache of the RH Yokel---I bet he don't get 225k a year--if he does--he gets more than the one eyed Scot--must check that--may be wrong--senile dementia sorry---and golf fatigue and lack of sponduliks(nifty,tenner,oner,monkey,grand etc. as per cockney slang).

I am impressed by Manx Radio and told them so ---- get in there and get these 'souls who are stitching up the IOM for their own benefit--225k a year for an organisation of 60 people????? That is not business sense by any measure--he is making 3,750 for every employee---I wish I had a business like that!

And that does not include the perks I am sure---generous pension scheme--expenses paid trips to London--for two hours mis representation--I would do the job for half the money and at least, I am not afraid to tell the truth.
unfortunately FSC IOM has no vacancies at the moment---maybe soon?

can I have a poll for me as CEO of the IOM FSC please?

CV--I do know the difference between investor and depositor, so I guess i am fully qualified.

Bob in Davo

PS
Of course they would not give me a visa as i cannot deposit the money in IOM because they have nicked it.


bobwin

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  • 13/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Sun, 15/03/2009 - 13:08

I would guess that you are in the over £50k group and feel that the IOMG should be doing more for you hense your interbreeding comments, is not jones or smith a common name in England so they are interbreeders to ? Did you not know that compensation for IOM was £15K, jersey has nothing, IOM is now £50K when you put your money in ?


80,000 inhabitants only...

  • manx-person
  • 17/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Fri, 13/02/2009 - 11:03

So what you guys are saying is that the whole Island has been interbreeding for 1000 years.
In the 2006 IoM census report http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/treasury/economic/census/censusreport2006.pdf p7 "Manx born residents account for 47.6% of the population"

Manx Radio is in fact owned by the Isle of Man Treasury on behalf of the IOMG http://www.manxradio.com/contenttabs.aspx?fol=14212


Manx Radio

  • bobwin
  • 23/12/08 n/a (free)
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  • Sun, 15/03/2009 - 14:01

Nice one manx person.

I was trying to find out who owned the station today.

Now you have advised me--thanks

I won't trust anything they say again--independent--my bottom!


@manx-person: So who are the 40,000?

  • follow_the_tao
  • 11/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Sun, 15/03/2009 - 08:01

Who would move to the IoM?


Little has been head of Peter

  • Albert
  • 26/03/09 31/05/09
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  • Thu, 25/06/2009 - 15:34

Little has been head of Peter Bruce Clucas for a while and it seems that Seth Caine has taken over. Clucas has a reputation in local domestic land law cases and opposing litigants in person. Perhaps Cains thought all this KSFIOM stuff would be a walk over for them.

I bet they're still raking in £loads though.


The facts of the matter are

  • manx-person
  • 17/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Thu, 25/06/2009 - 18:43

The facts of the matter are that

(i) Peter Clucas represents the bank (he was the advocate who made the application to the court on behalf of the Bank (along with the other joint petitioner the FSC)
(ii) Seth Caine is the lawyer for the provisional liquidators

Both of the above are directors of the incorporated legal practice Cains.Advocates Limited

The comments about Peter Clucas aren't in my view representative of his areas of expertise.


Peter on behalf of Cains also

  • Albert
  • 26/03/09 31/05/09
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  • Fri, 26/06/2009 - 11:41

Peter on behalf of Cains also advises the Government when required.