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Glitnir creditors want to sell Islandsbanki

  • glen07
  • 21/10/08 n/a (free)
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http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/02/26/glitnir-creditors-want-to-sel...

Glitnir creditors want to sell Islandsbanki

Posted on26 February 2010. Tags: credit, debt, Glitnir, Iceland, islandsbanki

glitnir-logoNone of the biggest claimants to the estate of the bankrupt Glitnir Bank want to remain in 95 percent possession of its successor, Islandsbanki. The Bank’s resolution committee has therefore put Islandsbanki up for sale and has hired Swiss bank UBS as advisor for the sale. The reported sale price is ISK 100 billion (USD 776.7 million).

The future work of the Glitnir resolution committee is the maximise returns on the bank’s assets and then collect and distribute the returns among creditors. The committee has already achieved good results, Visir.is reports; among other things by closing branches and daughter companies in ten countries; paying off the debts of the branches in most of those countries as it goes.

The committee has now decided to sell its 95 percent stake in Islandsbanki in Iceland, which it owns through its specially created daughter company, ISB Holding.

“We are enthusiastic to maximise the sale price of this asset as with all others. And we have hired a foreign adviser to oversee the future owners of Islandsbanki,” says Committee chairman Arni Tomasson. He confirmed that the foreign adviser is UBS Bank from Switzerland and that the sale will be carried out in co-operation with the Icelandic government, which holds five percent in Islandsbanki. IT is hoped the sale can be completed within three to five years.

“We estimate the worth of Islandsbanki to be in the region of 100 billion kronur for this 95 percent share,” Tomasson said. Glitnir creditors have no say in the day-to-day running of Islandsbanki and they have subsequently decided to sell up.


Luxemburg bank raid

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There's an article in the Telegraph Finance section today that should be posted.


@ arny - Here's the article about Luxembourg bank raid

  • glen07
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/7225366/...

Police raid Rowlands' bank over ex-owner Kaupthing
Police have raided a Luxembourg bank bought last year by the millionaire Rowland family, seizing documents related to its previous owners, the scandal-hit Icelandic bank Kaupthing.

By Lawrie Holmes and Rowena Mason
Published: 10:13PM GMT 12 Feb 2010

Around 40 investigators visited Banque Havilland on Tuesday as part of an ongoing investigation into Kaupthing.

However, there is no suggestion of any wrongdoing by Banque Havilland and the Rowland family, who bought part of the failed bank from its creditors in July.

Related Articles

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  Rowland family open new bank from remains of Kaupthing's Luxembourg arm
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  Iceland banking inquiry finds murky geysers runs deep
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  Vikings found that British raids led not to Valhalla but Ragnarok
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  Icelandic police investigate FL Group
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  Iceland corruption investigator Eva Joly may quit in frustration

"The reason for the visit is in no way related to the activity of Banque Havilland SA and concerns the former Kaupthing bank and the ongoing Icelandic investigation," the bank said. "We cannot provide further details other than to state that we are fully co-operating with the authorities."

The family, estimated to be worth £600m, includes property developer David "Spotty" Rowland and his son, Jonathan, who founded internet group JellyWorks in the dotcom boom.

They bought the bank, including deposits worth about €1.3bn, hoping to expand its retail operations. In a good bank/bad bank split, most of the bank's loan book was put in a separate vehicle excluded from the deal.

However, Banque Havilland took on all "loans granted to current employees and former employees and officers of the company", plus some "excluded private loans" and "excluded corporate loans". It retained most Kaupthing staff.

The Icelandic bank failed in October 2008, also bringing down its Luxembourg subsidiary, and since then has been subject to an investigation into "suspicions of criminal activity" in Reykjavik and London.

An official from Iceland's investigation team confirmed that the raids were connected to several cases of alleged wrongdoing at Kaupthing.


SFO to investigate failed Icelandic bank Kaupthing

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  • Thu, 17/12/2009 - 07:48

Daily Mail. Money section.


SFO confirms Kaupthing probe

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Today's Telegraph business section


The article you refer to Arny

  • expat
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Serious Fraud Office confirms Kaupthing probe
Britain's fraud police have launched an investigation into whether depositors were duped into placing their savings with Kaupthing Edge, the high-paying UK account of the failed Icelandic bank.

By Philip Aldrick and Rowena Mason
Published: 12:01AM GMT 17 Dec 2009

The Serious Fraud Office (SFO) said it is “particularly interested” in the bank’s efforts to attract UK investors to its “high-yield deposit account”, Kaupthing Edge.

The SFO will investigate whether the bank made “misrepresentations or false representations” to UK investors, and why “substantial value” was extracted from the bank “in the weeks and days before it collapsed”, confirming a report in The Sunday Telegraph.

Kaupthing collapsed last October, leaving 300,000 British savers unable to access their money and costing institutions billions of pounds. The SFO has estimated that more than 30,000 British individuals, companies and organisations invested in Kaupthing Edge.

Among Kaupthing’s major investors were Sports Direct owner Mike Ashley and property tycoon Robert Tchenguiz, who could find themselves drawn into the investigation as witnesses.

News of the investigation came as it emerged that Tony Shearer, the former chief executive of investment bank Singer & Friedlander, which was bought by Kaupthing, has written to Lord Turner, chairman of the Financial Services Authority, calling for a public inquiry.

“For the sake of everybody who lost money, we need to know exactly what happened between the takeover and its collapse,” he told The Daily Telegraph. “The FSA is partly culpable because this all happened on its watch.”


Early Day Motion in the House of Commons

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  • 10/10/08 31/05/09
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Please read this and write to your MP asking them to support this motion. The motion has been placed by the MP for Colchester, Bob Russell the Lib Dem. Along with the SFO news that is a good xmas present as far as I am concerned.

EDM 474

KAUPTHING SINGER & FRIEDLANDER ISLE OF MAN DEPOSITORS AND BONDHOLDERS
That this House recognises the decision by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) to revoke Kaupthing Singer & Friedlander UK's (KSF UK) deposit-taking licence led to the ultimate collapse of Kaupthing Singer & Friedlander Isle of Man (KSFIOM);

notes that the decision taken by KSFIOM's directors to transfer over 50% of assets to KSF UK, which was approved by the Financial Supervision Commission following extensive consultation with the FSA, contravenes both UK and European banking practice;

further recognises that some 3,000 KSFIOM depositors with savings above the £50,000 compensation threshold, many of whom are British pensioners, are yet to be fully recompensed;

further notes that British offshore depositors remit tax to the UK via income declaration or withholding tax and are therefore deserving of action by the Government;

asks the Government to intervene directly and calls on the Isle of Man authorities to ensure all depositors receive full compensation, in line with UK depositors;

further calls on the 10 life companies that mis-sold over 1,000 bondholders in KSFIOM, a product offering capital security, low risk and regular income potential, to re-evaluate their businesses and marketing practices and recompense policyholders accordingly;

and requests that the Ministry of Justice further investigates whether the Isle of Man has the necessary skills, experience or processes in place to ensure effective self-regulation, as well as the conflicts of interest of those holding positions in the Isle of Man's political, judicial, regulatory bodies and financial services industry


PLEASE SUPPORT THE EARLY DAY MOTION

  • banna
  • 15/10/08 01/03/10
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  • Sat, 19/12/2009 - 21:08

Can I add my plea to expat's posting and ask EVERY depositor to send off this letter - and the follow ups later - to their MP.
Bob Russell has had the courage to stand up and try to get other MPs to join him in supporting action to help us AND WE HAVE TO SUPPORT HIM. This is the first time in over a year - in fact since Mary Creagh's brave decision to go for an Adjournment Debate - that we have had any chance of mustering a significant body of MP opinion. If we do not grab it now we might never get another chance.
We have 463 depositors registered on the other site and more than 2600 on this site. So far 46 depositors have sent off the first letter to 43 MPs. We need to contact all 646 MPs to get maximum traction, and if we cannot get more than 250 MPs to support Bob Russell then in my view we shall have failed.
Some Early Day Motions get over 450 MP signatures - why can't we aim to do the same?
I am trying to collate this action for DAG and I need to know either by posting on this site or the other one of every one of us
who does write. It is important also that I know which MP has been written to. If some have done it and not said so on either of the sites will they please post the name of the MP contacted.
I'd like to thank all those who have written to their MP in this way - and hope a lot more do so.
And wish all of us a Happy Christmas and a better year in 2010.


EDM

  • jmf
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  • Tue, 22/12/2009 - 11:40

My daughter has written to her MP on our behalf - David Lammy Labour Tottenham


EDM Letter

  • icdbrazil
  • 10/10/08 30/11/09
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  • Tue, 22/12/2009 - 11:26

Mine sent to Peter Ainsworth MP (East Surrey).


EDM letter response

  • icdbrazil
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Maybe we need to target their assistants, who can then tell them to sign!!! See below.

Dear Mr Davison

Thank you for your email; I will ask Mr Ainsworth to sign EDM 474 and he will be in touch soon.

Kind regards

Stacey Tong
Researcher to Peter Ainsworth MP
0207 219 5151


Support for early day motion

  • AMG56
  • 13/10/08 29/05/14
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  • Mon, 21/12/2009 - 16:48

Mine letter's gone too. Had a reply from my MP saying that as a Government Minister he can't sign the EDM but he will be more than willing to make further representations on my behalf. Have written to him before and had little more than an acknowledgement. Maybe things are starting to look up!!!!!


PLEASE SUPPORT THE EARLY DAY MOTION

  • Ever Hopeful
  • 25/10/08 31/03/10
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  • Mon, 21/12/2009 - 13:38

My husband and I (individual bond holders) have written to Don Foster MP, Lib Dem for Bath.


EDM to two more MP's

  • chb
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  • Mon, 21/12/2009 - 13:43

EDM letter sent to Henry Bellingham (our MP from a previous life) and also to Norman Lamb, our current MP.
Happy Christmas and a happy and healthy New Year to everyone.


EDM Letter Sent

  • jr
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  • Mon, 21/12/2009 - 19:27

EDM letter sent to Christine Russell, MP for Chester


Letter faxed to James Gray MP

  • glen07
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  • Sun, 20/12/2009 - 23:32

Sent mine off.


EDM Letter sent

  • dwbrown57@btope...
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  • Fri, 25/12/2009 - 10:50

EDM letter sent to John Howell MP for Henley on Thames.


Please see new poll

  • glen07
  • 21/10/08 n/a (free)
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  • Sun, 20/12/2009 - 23:41

Please fill in the poll about supporting the EDM. Thanks.


I am apalled

  • bellyup
  • 10/10/08 09/01/10
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  • Sun, 20/12/2009 - 16:20

I am appalled that only 46 people have written to their MPs
For heavens sake where is everyone?


Number of UK residents for Early Day Motion

  • hopeful
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  • Sun, 20/12/2009 - 17:20

Yes it does seem pathetic that only 46 of us so far have contacted their MP. However does anyone know how many out of the 3000 or so left in this mess reside in the UK?


Get your relatives to write to their MPs

  • bellyup
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  • Sun, 20/12/2009 - 18:28

There must be more than 46

Many of us do reside outside the UK but I understand that you can still ask your MP to act for you up to 15 years after leaving the country- I may be wrong on this one.

If possible get your relatives and friends to apply to their MPs on your behalf citing family distress.

Maybe it would be a good idea to petition all MPs they might sign out of a sense of justice.


MPs and non-residence

  • anrigaut
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  • Sun, 20/12/2009 - 18:54

That is correct - you remain eligible for 15 years (but have to register to be on the electoral roll and vote). I have been left for 25 years, but still sent to the MP for my former constituency, citing my last UK address. I have written several times before and had one reply (standard HMT blurb, but at least a reply).

Don't despair bellyup - it's early days yet. We fully intend to chase up recalcitrant depositors!

So folks, better to do it NOW! If you missed the information, see here http://chat.ksfiomdepositors.org/blog-entry/dst-update-17th-december-2009

We need ALL DEPOSITORS to do their bit!


Letter sent - 30 years on

  • Valentine
  • 18/10/08 31/05/14
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  • Mon, 21/12/2009 - 04:47

Following your advice, anrigaut, I have sent the letter to Macolm Rifkind, the MP for the constituency, Kensington and Chelsea, where I last lived and voted.......
In 1979 !!!???

I have written to Barabara Follett (Stevenage) before as I knew her personally many years ago.
And got the standard reply (at least she replied) - she can't help me as I'm not her constituent.


EDM Letter to Rt Hon John Denham MP Sent

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written before as you know.. he is a member of Cabinet may add some weight get thing moving again!

A very Merry Christmas and A Happier New Year to US all!!

God bless Aurora

:0)


Bunkum! - from Barbara Follet

  • anrigaut
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Bunkum! - from Barbara Follet (not you, Valentine!)

That's just an excuse - she doesn't have to have a constituent affected to sign up to the EDM. I hope we have a depositor in Stevenage to disturb her!

Don't let that discourage anyone. We need EVERY DEPOSITOR to do their bit and reach the maximum number of MPs.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained! And we have nothing to lose by this. It doesn't require much effort. So please, DO IT NOW - and help us to help you.


UK Resident

  • caledonia
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  • Sun, 20/12/2009 - 18:24

You don't necessarily have to be UK resident to be able to contact your MP. I am not sure how many years after you leave (but I am sure someone will know!) - but you just use your last postcode.


Life in the fast lane!!

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By Iain Dey
The Sunday Times December 20, 2009

Williams, the Formula One racing team, is claiming £10m from the estate of one of Iceland’s collapsed banks in a row over a sponsorship deal with Hamleys toy shop.

A list of creditors to Glitnir, Iceland’s third-biggest bank before the country’s financial collapse last year, includes the F1 team.

It has emerged that the bank agreed in early 2008 to guarantee sponsorship payments made to the team by Baugur, the Icelandic retail group that then owned Hamleys. The guarantee was given as Baugur started to creak under the weight of the debts it had accumulated while buying a string of British retailers, including House of Fraser, Oasis and Karen Millen.

The Hamleys name continued to appear on the Williams cars but it is understood that the last sponsorship payments to the team came direct from Glitnir.

Jon Asgeir Johannesson, the entrepreneur who owned the Baugur empire, was also a large shareholder in Glitnir. FL Group, an investment firm backed by Johannesson, owned 32% of the bank and had two directors on the bank’s board.

The revelation of the guarantee has raised fresh questions over the relationships between Iceland’s banks and the entrepreneurs who were their biggest customers — and largest shareholders.

Leaked documents have shown that Iceland’s banks were lending billions of pounds to their biggest shareholders on favourable terms. Often, the money was lent with little or no collateral and no interest payments.

Kaupthing, Iceland’s biggest bank, has been accused of artificially supporting its share price by offering loans to its customers to buy shares in the bank.Two former brokers at the group have already been sentenced to eight months in jail for market manipulation.

The Serious Fraud Office (SFO) last week launched a formal investigation into Kaupthing over claims that it misled the 30,000 British savers who deposited money in its high-interest bank accounts.

The SFO is also investigating transactions “which appear to have allowed substantial value to be extracted from the bank in the weeks and days prior to its collapse”.


Early Day Motion

  • SpeedySA
  • 04/02/09 31/05/09
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  • Mon, 21/12/2009 - 12:21

I have written , though living in South bAfrica, to my MP who represented the constituency where I last lived in England. I put the relevant post code of that address.
I have received the following reply within 24 hours:-

Thank you for your recent email concerning EDM 474 concerning Kaupthink Singer & Friedlander, and I am grateful to you for taking the trouble to bring this to my attention. Unfortunately at the moment this particular EDM is not all-party having three Lib Dem MPs as the top signatories. It would have been helpful for the EDM to have been tabled with representations from all the main Parties to ensure the broadest possible support of MPs from across the House of Commons. The House has now risen for the Christmas recess, therefore I will consider whether to put my name down as a signatory when the House returns in January.

With best wishes for Christmas and the New Year.

Kind regards,

Sir Nicholas Winterton MP


Sir Nicholas Winterton - not encouraging

  • bellyup
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  • Mon, 21/12/2009 - 13:58

I would suggest sending it again stressing the urgency - send it to his wife too shes an MP as well .
Copy to Henry Bellingham and David Cameron and anyone else Conservative after all an election is coming up .


Early Day Motion

  • hopeful
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  • Sun, 20/12/2009 - 12:07

Hi Banna

I agree with everything you say so please note that I have sent my first letter based on the Dag template to Oliver Heald MP (North East Herts).

Heres looking forward to a better 2010.


@ Tricky Dicky

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I 'm afraid I fail to see the purpose of blogs as you cant make a comment.
I have therefore reproduced your blog below in order to do so.
**
EARLY DAY MOTION

Posted 17/12/2009 - 07:06 by Tricky Dicky

To All
Following the submission of the EDM, raised by the DST with external help from a lobbying company, over the last 5 or 6 weeks, it would be appreciated if those that can, donate to the general fund so that the DST work can continue. There are other avenues presently being explored with this company which will need your financial backing.
It should also be noted that we continue to liaise with members of the media to ensure that your predicament is maintained in the press.**

Why was an external lobbying company necessary to organise the EDM?
How much does this cost?


EDM

  • smurfgw
  • 02/02/09 30/11/09
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I confirm having written to my constituency MP Gordon Banks seeking his support for the motion

smurfgw


Letter sent...as a Non Resident

  • chipmunk
  • 13/10/08 31/05/09
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sent to my last constituency...guildford ..annie Nichol...........

Dont worry about the technicalities...just send them to one and all...


Support the Early Day Motion

  • tonycBrisbaneOz
  • 12/10/08 31/05/13
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Letter sent on Thursday

I added the following paragraph

I would like to reiterate that as yet I have only recently received 40% of what is owed to me. The liquidation process is expected to take another 8 years to complete further eroding the value of what is returned to me by inflation, loss of interest and the decline of Sterling. A longer sentence and larger fine than any one connected to this affair is likely to receive should successful prosecutions result from the current Serious Fraud Office investigation into KSF. I would also like to remind you that for the vast majority of depositors the actions of the FSA has adversely effected their lives. As well as the loss of life savings, some depositors have been made destitute and to my knowledge at least on depositor has committed suicide. I myself will have to work a lot longer before I retire and I expect to retire in much reduced circumstances as a result.

Regards, TonyC


MP EDM letter's

  • Roman2005
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Hi Banna,

I am keen to support this initiative.

What I am not clear on is;

1) Do I send the letter to both city and shire MP's of Derby/Derbyshire (for which i beleive their are about 4 in total) or just the one who is responsible for the constituency in which my house is located. Note: i presently live overseas

2) Given the Derbyshire BS was acquired by KSFIOM my guess is the Derby/Derbyshire MP's will have already been contacted by other depositors- So is it worth me submitting the letter- i guess yes as several letters to the same MP may help them sign the EDM ?

Roman 2005


EDM

  • banna
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Hi Roman 2005 sorry to take so long to reply Have only just seen your question
You are right to say that repeated requests to each MP might have cumulative positive effect - so yes write to all of them. If you have relations or friends still living in the constituencies get them to send the letters too on your behalf.
I think Chipmunk's comment to forget the technicalities and just send the request is the best approach
Good luck, happy Christmas and and a bumper return in 2010


forwarded as an email to

  • cottesmore
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forwarded as an email to Brian Binley MP.


Letter sent to Michael Gove

  • frog
  • 10/10/08 13/09/09
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Letter sent to Michael Gove (Surrey Heath)


EARLY DAY MOTION

  • sam
  • 07/12/08 30/09/11
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Letter sent to Mr Keith Simpson MP (Mid Norfolk)


Early Day Motion

  • hopeful
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I have sent my letter to Oliver Heald MP today based on the template posted by the DST Strategy Team. This template letter and appendices can be found on the other site - www.ksfiomdag.com

Looking forward to a better time in 2010.


Done!

  • caledonia
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Letter done and sent today to my MP Ben Bradshaw.


Done as well

  • Mrs Not Too Happy
  • 12/10/08 31/05/09
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That's my letter off to Jim Devine


Done

  • iak1655
  • 13/10/08 31/05/09
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Emailed Nick Palmer, labour MP for Broxtowe


Done!

  • caledonia
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Letter done and sent today to my MP Ben Bradshaw.


Done

  • mikepapa
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Hi Expat,

Letter sent to my contact MP Sir Malcolm Rifkind, all as requested.

Trust all well with you and yours........

Mike


sent

  • bellyup
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To Andrew Mackay MP


Very well as it happens Mike,

  • expat
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Very well as it happens Mike, a Merry Xmas to you. Hope it's nice and sunny and I wish we were there, I miss the xmas beaches on the island!!!


@ Expat

  • Wanda
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  • Thu, 17/12/2009 - 13:47

Expat - when this nightmare is finally resolved and we recover our stolen money, you and your family have an open invitation to my home in Florida so you can enjoy the beautiful beaches here. It's the least I can do to thank you for your outstanding efforts from Day 1 when you stormed the beaches of the Isle of Man demanding answers! The ONLY reason I can sleep nights is knowing there are British Bulldogs like you who are relentless in their pursuit of justice.

Thank you for everything you have done, and continue to do, for us.

Happy Christmas to you and yours.
Wanda


Wanda, thank you for the

  • expat
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Wanda, thank you for the invite, I should say that there are a number of people who fight this cause, even though there are differing opinions the fight is continued by numerous people, whether they are part of a group or independent, and long may that continue as long as it's needed. As long as the efforts get a result in the end its all that matters.

The EDM wasn't of my doing by the way, I'm just a messenger, I remember Alistair first suggesting this route back last February, so credit to those that carried it through. But however it gets aired doesn't matter, that it does get raised in the House is important.

I'm waiting for the SFO to get into action as I'd still like to see the heirarchy of KSF brought to justice, I also wish to support a call by Tony Shearer for an Independenet Enquiry.

So Merry Xmas and a Happier New Year to you.


Early Day Motion

  • grapow
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I have already sent this to my MP, so far no response, it is however that EVERY ONE of us does likewise for this to add up to anything at all and soon!