edited heading>>The BBC DID 'OUR STORY' on 23 NOV -- comments welcome

  • Lucky Jim
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Posted: Tue, 18/11/2008 - 12:07

The Politics Show on 23 Nov did give some space to 'our story'. Did anyone spot the clue of HOPE?


I have received a reply from the BBC in reponse to my complaint about the Poliitics Show on 16/11.

Quote:

"We note you were disappointed that the Chancellor of the Exchequer was not questioned on the collapse of the Icelandic bank Kaupthing, Singer and Friedlander during his interview on the 'Politics Show' on 16 November.

The programme issued a broad appeal for questions that viewers would like to see put to Alistair Darling and were grateful for all the suggestions they received. They did debate raising the issue of Kaupthing, Singer and Friedlander with the Chancellor but felt that the issue would need more context and explanation than it would be possible to offer in the time available during the interview.

The team at 'The Politics Show' are very keen to cover the issue – but want to do it justice. As a result they are planning on covering it in the form of a short film with a reporter. This will hopefully be broadcast either in next week's programme or the following week. Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us."

Now that has got to be a piece of good news for us !

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BBC Thanks for the publicity

  • grobbers
  • 11/10/08 31/05/09
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Below is an email I sent thanking the BBC for the coverage provided and hoping for more.

Dear Ms Carr,

May I take this opportunity of thanking you and all others involved for the broadcast on our plight on Sunday 23 Nov 08.

I realise you are not in a position to raise all relevant facts but what actually went out was very useful.

One of the most important facts was that ( either by a nod and a wink or more directly) the IOM was "encouraged" to move the assets of Kaupthing back to the UK where they were promptly frozen and then I believe eventually formed part of the package passed on to ING.

We depositors are not seeking a bail out by the UK Government, merely the return of our money. We regard it as being stolen from us and then used to compensate savers with the UK branch of Kaupthing.

We would very much appreciate our case being kept in mind and hopefully re-visited in the not too distant future.

Without publicity such as that afforded by your programme we feel we will be sacrificed to the incompetence of the current Government.

Yours sincerely,


Well done Alan and Hazel!!!

  • jenren
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 18:20

Thank you so much. I think that was an excellent report. Yes, maybe they didn't cover all sides of our problems but that would have taken hours. Ignore anybody moaning, its just typical of some of the people on here, I would like to see them try do the interviews and then get the journalists to edit the clips exactly how they thought fit and to include all specifics they thought relevant!! This was a fantastic short report on a popular program and much needed publicity after a quiet spell.

It has given me and my family a much needed boost to see a report about our plight in the popular media again. Thanks again.


Any media debate is our life-line

  • Relentless Posse
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 17:55

Media attention is our life line - any debate is excellent for us.No debate will assign us to the bottom of the pile.

The danger for us is that we become just "another casualty" amongst the falling dominoes.

Keep the BBC going on this story !
Any celebrities that have deposits - keep banging on your contacts high in goverment and else where - Please!


Write and thank the BBC

  • Alastair
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 19:36

I'll be writing and thanking the BBC Politics Show for giving our issues air-time and also asking them to keep our issue in mind for the future depending how it goes. Hope others will show their appreciation.

Joanna is the assitant editor who handled this:
joanna [dot] carr(?)bbc [dot] co [dot] uk


BBC Politics show

  • chb
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Thanks for the suggestion BC. Have e-mailed Joanna.

I thought it was super exposure. It shows our durability and ability to create visibility on really significant programmes. I am full of admiration for the couple taking part - well done to them and Thank You for placing your heads above the parapet.

The BBC responded incredibly positively to the pressure of our many, many e-mails following the A.Darling interview the previous week. Well done to them too.


BBC Politics Show wasted opportunity

  • MichaelB
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 14:12

I watched the show .... A single question to the PM which was weak and he replied in the predictable manner …. Usual IOM is beyond our control rubbish ….. then he again stated that “We need to look at the relationship with the IOM etc “ ….. more food for thought for the Manx boys to worry about moving forward.

I thought they kissed and made up a week ago after Darling made the same remarks.

As for the film …. Bit of a waste of time I thought. They did not raise any relevant questions at all …. How we got to this position, what is currently happening or what may happen moving forward.

The “foot balling analogies” were embarrassing for such a serious situation.

Really in my book it did not help or move us forward one inch !

Sorry …. I know a lot of people were waiting for this to be broadcast.


Politics show - Excellent in my opinion!

  • mariatown
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What a negative posting MichaelB! I was extremely pleased with the coverage the Politics show gave our situation. It showed a normal British couple and their plight.....after all that is what we all are!

It CLEARLY covered the Tax Issue that we are constantly have to battle with stating that we do pay tax to the British government and so should be treated accordingly.

It showed the brilliant clip of Gordan Brown stating "these are extraordinary times and they need extraordinary actions....... we don't want British savers being pushed from pillar to post and that the governments job is to look after them"

I presume the footballing connection was to catch the attention of those who normally would switch off at this type of topic and also to highlight the fact that not all Isle of Mann depositors are multi millionaires who play polo and drive Rolls Royces!|

All in all a much needed piece of media coverage... well done to all those involved!


Politics show - Excellent in my opinion!

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What a negative posting MichaelB! I was extremely pleased with the coverage the Politics show gave our situation. It showed a normal British couple and their plight.....after all that is what we all are!

It CLEARLY covered the Tax Issue that we are constantly have to battle with stating that we do pay tax to the British government and so should be treated accordingly.

It showed the brilliant clip of Gordan Brown stating "these are extraordinary times and they need extraordinary actions....... we don't want British savers being pushed from pillar to post and that the governments job is to look after them"

I presume the footballing connection was to catch the attention of those who normally would switch off at this type of topic and also to highlight the fact that not all Isle of Mann depositors are multi millionaires who play polo and drive Rolls Royces!|

All in all a much needed piece of media coverage... well done to all those involved!


The Politics Show

  • Chairman2
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 14:30

I am sorry MichaelB thought the Politics Show was a wasted opportunity. The BBC film crew were here for four hours and we covered in the region of thirty key questions. The producer explained to us that he could make no guarentees as to which questions and answers would be shown, he did make the point however that the final film may not cover the points that we all wanted raised, but he guarenteed that it would highlight the profile of our cause which indeed it did.


Politics show

  • 9-10
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 19:31

I am truly grateful for the couple with their story.
I am sure the bbc can dig out unseen footage when they return to the subject.
Perhaps in a documentary later.
I agree that the reporting is softened up and journalists could show more fire for such issues.
Overall though, not bad publicity. There will be more !


Politics Show today

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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 14:48

MichaelB, I don't think The Politic Show was a wasted opportunity, surely the fact that our cause got five minutes of valuable national TV must be positive. Isn't any publicity good for us?


They did not get the point !

  • MichaelB
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 15:33

Hi ... I know how these film making process works ..... you shoot hours of material and most of it is wasted. I agree we have no control over what is aired.

I watched it... recorded it .... watched it again ... nope ...sorry did not help with any new information, blame anybody nor suggest how we get our money back.

The couples story was typical I know but as soon as the "football" nonsense started it turned into a human interest story rather than a political one with serious question and issue's at stake.

I am not pointing the finger at any of us ..... I think we should bombard the BBC show again saying they should take things seriously as per a dedicated PMQ session. That is serious journalism in which we may get answers.

If I was the IOM I would be on the phone tomorrow asking what the PM is on about re their future status.

Not a ground breaking piece in my book ..... just my opinion .... sorry if I offend anybody.


But what about the national coverage?

  • investor01
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There is plenty of comment here - some positive and some critical of the coverage we have had today on the Politics Show. For me the salient point is that our plight had national TV coverage and is terstiment to the efforts people in this group are putting in.

In addition, however 'weakly' answered, even with a budget looming we had a question put directly to the PM on our behalf. If nothing else this lets senior politicians know we are still here and not going away.

Has it advanced our cause in terms of an immediate resolution? Maybe not. Has it advanced us towards our aims in any way? I believe so as nearly two months after the event we are still making the TV.

This encourages me to keep the pressure on.


Politics Show

  • FEDUP
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Positive comments from Investor01. What did we honestly expect to achieve from the BBC? The PM agreeing to put our funds back into KSF(IOM)? MichaelB, if you are not happy with the results of the Politics Show, you must try and appear on another TV programme to state your case instead of being so negative.
Lets please stay positive and work together on trying to get what is rightfully ours.


How did it go?

  • formymum
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 13:35

How did the BBC show go? Any news?
Unfortunatley I couldn't see it from here - will there be a link put up?

Thanks
formymum


formymum, video on youtube here

  • skintagainnow
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Video, now uploaded on youtube with all our other video's

http://chat.ksfiomdepositors.org/forum-topic/video-interviews-news-media...


Did we get the interview with Gordon Brown today?

  • romasanta
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skintagainnow - There were a few things that Brown said during the BBC Politics show today that we could use to our favour - did you by any chance record this part also? I would like to see it and use some GB quotes.


Gordon Brown Interview Link

  • Tricky Dicky
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This I think gives you the link to the BBC site with showing the interview with Gordon Brown in todays Politics Show http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/politics_show/7741357.stm


GB interview

  • romasanta
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Thanks Tricky Dicky and BC - I have the video and transcript now.


Transcript of Gordon Brown's comments

  • Alastair
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For those who don't want to hear the full 20 odd minutes below is the BBC transcript of the Q&A regarding KSF IOM.

JON SOPEL: Okay. Later in the programme we're going to be hearing about a number of British people who've put their money into banks on the Isle of Man that were taken over by Icelandic banks and as a result have possibly lost all their life savings. What can be done to help them?

GORDON BROWN: I have a number of people write to me about this and I'm obviously very concerned about this because the Isle of Man is not within our jurisdiction for regulation. We have guaranteed the savings of people in, in British banks in a number of cases, even though they were owned by Icelandic banks themselves. This is now a matter that the international authorities are dealing with. We are talking to the international monetary fund, who've had a deal with Iceland, about the repayment of debts that these banks have entered in to. This is something that we'll have to pursue internationally and I think we may have to look at the relationship between the Isle of Man and Britain in this respect because I think it's sad when people are effectively, an island that is operating in a different way from the rest of Britain.


Gordon Brown actually

  • expatfrance1
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Gordon Brown actually said:-
'We are talking to the international monetary fund, who've made a deal with Ireland'!

Ireland, Iceland, Isle Of Man. I suppose one piece of rock in the middle of the sea looks much the same as any other to him!


Ireland

  • uptight61
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 19:10

So the old b***** did say Ireland - as I stated elsewhere, possibly a Freudian slip. If you're with AIB possibly move some funds elsewhere!


Gordon Brown's comments

  • Alastair
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 19:02

OK not a hard hitting question to Gordon but I thought his reply was interesting and in my opinion not necessarily wholly negative.

  1. Acknowledged lots of letters on the subject.
  2. Says it is sad.
  3. Says the IMF is handling it - although he did say Ireland whatever the transcript says.
  4. When he says we may have to look at the relationship with the IOM it is not to me in the same context as Darlings to the TSC but in context of IOM depositors being treated differently to the rest of Britain.

Thanks

  • formymum
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 16:30

Thanks skintagainnow, just watched it.


GB interview will uploaded but need to do some checking first

  • skintagainnow
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No probs, and an excellent place to add a little info on the video's at youtube.

I was in the middle of uploading the GB interview - but then noticed after I'd added the "chairman" interviews, youtube dropped the first video uploaded on our plight from their site "Steve's - expat - interview" have checked and can still access / view it from the link on our site, but not from youtube. Lots of varibles here as not sure how long it would remain on youtube and whether once they drop the tag, the video is also deleted at the next update. Therefore not sure if we have exceeded some limit on quantity (total number of vids) or size Mbs - trying to find any info at the moment, if quantity ie only allowed 19 video's then will drop the least popular from the listings, rather than youtube choose one to delete.

Or if required can try and set up a new site on youtube and simply add 1 or 2 or OLD behind the DAG name, I do have it ready to upload, but need to do some more checking before I do so.


Now I'm really confused, with youtube

  • skintagainnow
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Steve's interview has just popped back into the youtube listings -- If anyone has more info on how youtube works drop me an email.

Although I do have all of them on a backup the preference would be to keep all in our youtube area for ease of reference to members & guests alike.


BBC

  • chipmunk
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  • Sun, 23/11/2008 - 13:54

In my opinion it wasnt bad but as always the real questions were not asked..........

Mr Brown as expected fobbed it off as a IOM problem.....and again said that HMG will have to look at the way off shore banks operate....

When will the IOM powers start to stand up and look after themselves.....HMG are puting the blame on the IOM and this will effect the islands status a lot, but still they seem to be treading softly softly.....

BUT....at least Brown did confirm he has rcvd a number of letters from concerned depositors......

What did others think of the programme ?


BBC on KSFIOM

  • peter and louise
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I watched this piece and was very disappointed, and confused. Brown reiterated Darling's remarks a couple of weeks ago at the Treasury Meeting regarding the need to examine what goes on in IOM and that depositors' problems over there were nothing to do with him. Didn't Brown (i.e. IOM Brown) come back from a later meeting with Darling pleased as punch and telling us all that no such examination was to take place after all and that all was well between them and that progress was being made. What is going on here? I feel furious with the cavalier, almost flippant, way we are being treated by the two of them (though that's the least of my problems at the moment). They are responsible for the mess they have got us in but neither, clearly, are going to relent, ever, at least not in public. All I can hope is that the probable 'horse-trading' going on behind closed doors gets us results. The BBC's questioner's approach to our problem was very easy for Brown to fend off and didn't allow for any effectual nailing down of the real issues. To my mind the IMF's preconditions for their loans to Iceland (i.e. the latter honouring their pleges to us, in the same way as they are with the Germans, Finns etc.) are the way forward together with the eventual return of our money which the UK government seized. A restructured the bank is a good solution. I still think the bank will be saved at the eleventh hour.


The politics show

  • uptight61
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Was good to see that we hadn't been forgotten and that writing to the BBC did pay dividends. Was good that the show focused on the particular couple's plight - no suspicion of fat cats or tax dodgers or money laundering.
As an aside, did Brown in his response say Ireland rather than Iceland? This could be a Freudian slip - there has been recent speculation that Ireland is in a similar predicament to Iceland.


BBC Politics Show - Expats

  • Tricky Dicky
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One of the interesting items that we need to pick up on was in the interview with Mr Brown, was that one of the ways, he mentioned, that he felt important to alleviate the affects of the financial crisis was 'exports', well perhaps if he helps all the expats etc who have been hit by this situation, they would help the UK back onto its feet again.
Suggestion that all expats pick up on this and maybe get their companies involved?


How did it go?

  • Tricky Dicky
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Keep an eye on News, I am syre when skintagainnow has the chance he will upload the link and add it to the "Links to numerous videos" item + see shout


Thanks

  • formymum
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Thanks for the replies. I'll keep an eye on 'News'


BBC coverage

  • maxsweep
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  • Sat, 22/11/2008 - 13:10

Excellent news re the bbc coverage. Part of the frustration of the whole situation is that no-one in the media has publicised our plight, unlike when Northern Rock collapsed. Hopefully this will help.


Bahh humbug

  • patt62
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  • Fri, 21/11/2008 - 14:50

And the BBC doing a story in response to volume of information is a real lesson for those who said it was pointless, a done deal and beyond our control. Success is as much a state of mind as a fact. well done team. Whether you think you can , or think you cant, youre probably right.


Politics Show 23/11 - just 4 min slot

  • Lucky Jim
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  • Fri, 21/11/2008 - 05:27

Just for information here (it's on the site elsewhere), one of our members has had a film interview & presently a 4 minute slot has been allocated for the programme.


Good News?

  • Peasant
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Depends on who is pulling the reporter's strings:)


The Politics Show on Sunday

  • Chairman2
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  • Thu, 20/11/2008 - 22:11

The BBC made contact with us yesterday confirming their plan to run a four minute slot on the KSF (IOM) crisis, this Sunday 23rd November 12 Noon until 1pm. They wanted an interview today. As you can imagine we covered many items including some key topics, we discussed with Diver late last night.
To edit four minutes from two hours of filming is going to be difficult for their producer who had a superb knowledge of the situation and was excellent to work with.

We obviously have no control on the final film even though we made certain requests, we can only hope that some of the key points were left in.

They were looking for our personnel story leading up to the 8th October and the trauma since. They obviously asked for our views on the way HMG has handled the situation and our thoughts for a solution. They did not want to get into the complex detail surrounding some of the political issues and with only four minutes of viewing time, you can see why.

If our cause gets four minutes of valuable national profile, we should be delighted


Excellent stuff,well done

  • cottesmore
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Excellent stuff,well done Chairman2.As i have said before,things happen if we all try together.


politics show

  • sambururob
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Hear. Hear. 5 minutes and 30 seconds on national TV. The footballing analogies did no harm. The message was put across - hard working British citizens earning dollars and paying tax to UK. Just by a quirk of fate may be deprived of their savings. Like the rest of us.
Jo public can spot government immorality a mile off.......and they were hopefully left with that thought that 'that isn't fair'. The British public care about 'being fair' and the coverage will have left a small seed of doubt about Mr Brown and Mr Darling. Nobody thinks that it will turn an election but in Mr Brown's position every seed of doubt has to be counteracted - possibly by doing the decent thing and at least returning the £550m of our money that he handed over to ING -who are far less British than the Isle of Man!! Or are the government now supporting Dutch bank shareholders over UK citizens?


BBC Politics show **regional or national**

  • skintagainnow
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Is this going to be as a "regional" section ie the same as last week with Stuart & Kieth just in the North West or national, if region can you advise which region.


The Politics Show on Sunday

  • Chairman2
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The interview on the Politics Show is national TV and not regional.

They are very interested in our stories so please keep contacting them with your own personal story.


Well done...

  • sympatheticsister
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fingers crossed for Sunday...


We were interviewed today for Sunday'Politics Show

  • Chairman2
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The BBC made contact with us yesterday confirming their plan to run a four minute slot on the KSF (IOM) crisis, this Sunday 23rd November 12 Noon until 1pm. They wanted an interview today. As you can imagine we covered many items including some key topics, we discussed with Diver late last night.
To edit four minutes from two hours of filming is going to be difficult for their producer who had a superb knowledge of the situation and was excellent to work with.

We obviously have no control on the final film even though we made certain requests, we can only hope that some of the key points were left in.

They were looking for our personnel story leading up to the 8th October and the trauma since. They obviously asked for our views on the way HMG has handled the situation and our thoughts for a solution. They did not want to get into the complex detail surrounding some of the political issues and with only four minutes of viewing time, you can see why.

If our cause gets four minutes of valuable national profile, we should be delighted


Another TSC hearing with FSA 15th December

  • darrmont
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The TSC is holding a hearing with the FSA on their performance and this is scheduled for 15th December 3.00 pm GMT


..........."Now that has got

  • please
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..........."Now that has got to be a piece of good news for us !"..............

Lets hope so and thanks for the info.


BBC SHOW getting it right

  • IceCrusher
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Is anyone from either team pursuing this opportunity? I think this represents a fantastic chance to present our case to a large audience - and we want to get it right!

We can be sure the BBC will pull out the old chestnuts of why should UK taxpayers bail out offshore tax avoiders?
Why do people use an offshore account?
You chased high rates without paying tax, so you deserve all that's happened to you!

i would suggest that we have a common line of answering these questions and forgive me if they have been posted elsewhere, but right now this would seem an appropriate forum; perhaps we can discuss the following:

We have to come across as the normal people we are, but with honest sincerity in these things, any hint of 'telling a story' will be used against us. We really must get the tax issue sorted, that no one can open a bank account in the IoM without the UK IR knowing about it and everyone pays tax according to their domicile and their personal arrangements with the IR. Non-resident not ordinarily resident citizens may well have no UK tax liability and that is perfectly legal and approved by the IR, they could even reclaim interest from tax-paid UK bank accounts if they submit the appropriate paperwork. I think we have to present the tax issue as one that depends upon personal status, not on where one chooses to bank. Using an offshore bank is easier for an expatriate because s/he can submit his overseas address and receive all communications from the bank to that address and not to one in the UK where (even if s/he is able to continue with, or open an account) s/he may not be able to access it for months at a time or would otherwise inconvenience others to forward it to him/her. Interest on offshore accounts is paid gross, so if you are not liable to pay tax because you do not live in the UK and make no use of public services there is no need to bother the taxman with claim forms and the like. If you are liable to pay tax then it goes on your yearly tax return as normal.

Icesavers were attracted by high interest rates, they even had their tax-free ISA's held in these accounts, this was an Icelandic subsidiary bank operating in the UK without direct regulation of the FSA - yet Mr Darling very kindly underwrote the full value of their three hundred thousand deposits - did they know when they opened their accounts that in addition to the ~ £16,000 guarantee from the Icelandics and the ~£34,000 top up from the FSCS that the Treasury would fund the rest of their deposit up to the maximum held in their account? No, they did not, so let's not have any clever comments made against depositors using Icelandic subsidiary banks chasing high interest rates and expecting a bail-out. We just want back the money we have spent years or decades saving. We know where it is, we know we should be protected as retail depositors, but our asset sits wholesale in another jurisdiction and no one is making a diplomatic exception due to extraordinary circumstances about it.
There's more but i will post this for now and continue later.

Ice


BBC Show getting it right

  • dclf1947
  • 10/10/08 31/08/09
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I have written this before but I think it is very relevant. If it were not for expats the export of UK goods would plummet. I was initially sent over to support the company I worked firms product. Later I joined a middle east company that had initially set up by a British firm, because I was there most of the engineering products were purchased from the UK in lieu of the USA. This involved millions of pounds and gave employment to UK personnel. I retired 3 years ago and now live in the Philippines but the firm I worked for has grown and is using more and more British technology. It is building another factory and again has paid a British company to design it and set it up as a going concern (very big money involved). If there were not expats none of this export trade would happen. We are necessary for the UK and I think this needs pointing out in the program if and when it happens.


Spokesman

  • Nixi
  • 20/10/08 31/05/09
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Can we offer them someone they can talk to from the group? Someone from IoM or London teams?
Better not to leave them getting the facts right to chance if they'll include us...

I just sent them this:
Hi
Many, many thanks for your reply regarding the KSF IoM situation.
That is excellent news. Many of us are pretty desperate!

Please do contact the Depositors' Action Group for more information and useful content..
It perhaps isn't easy to get through to a person at the group as many of us wish to remain anonymous, however, if you call me on my home or mobile and give me a number to call, I will get someone to call back.. somehow!

The group website is http://www.ksfiomdepositors.org/ as you probably know. There is plenty of information there.. but it is a bit hard to sift through..
A good start is the Position Paper drawn up by a volunteer and discussed and improved over the past few weeks here: http://www.ksfiomdepositors.org/forum-topic/position-paper
Some stories of people's experience and difficulties can be found here: http://www.ksfiomdepositors.org/forum-topic/your-stories
Some replies we have had from MPs are here: http://www.ksfiomdepositors.org/forum-topic/replies-mps-post-them-all-here

and my phone numbers..

Their email address is: politicsshow(?)bbc [dot] co [dot] uk


Questions re Politics Show not answered

  • french chic
  • 12/10/08 31/05/09
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I hope this isn't going to be a brief 'getting the editors in front of the cameras' piece on the Newswatch programme. Even if it is, people will be watching so it will generate more awareness of what is happening.


QUESTIONS FOR THE BBC

  • everhopeful
  • 11/10/08 n/a (free)
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  • Tue, 18/11/2008 - 13:15

Good news. I hope they kept all our questions! If anyone has not sent a question to the BBC for the Politics Show perhaps they can do so now so we can flood them with points and show them that we are a force to be reckoned with and that we will not go away empty handed. I suspect they will not ask the Chancellor back for a second bout of questioning so soon.