E-Petition to Number 10 Downing St

  • Hanimal
  • 27/10/08 31/05/09
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Posted: Mon, 10/11/2008 - 15:07

Does anyone want to create an e-petition at Number 10's website http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/ ?

Pros:
Any British citizen can sign an e-petition that goes directly to No. 10.
It can be signed by depositors, their families, their friends, their colleagues, neighbours and almost anyone who wants to support us.
In theory, thousands of people could sign

Cons
It is available only to British citizens
It requires the full name and address of signatories (if you still want to remain anonymous you obviously should be aware of this)

No one really knows if it will help, but why not add it to a list of actions?
The wording should be succinct, followed by a brief description or background. I have thought of some petition titles but you, dear reader, may think of many more.

It starts: We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to…
"Return all funds belonging to Kaupthing Singer and Friedlander (Isle of Man) Limited's depositors and frozen in the UK to its rightful owners in the Isle of Man."
"Ensure that British depositors are given equal treatment on the Isle of Man as those elsewhere in the UK"
And etc.

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Epetition

  • Iwantmymoneyback
  • 10/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Wed, 12/11/2008 - 08:47

If there is no way of getting any sensible epetition accepted on the number10 website, can we not create our own epetition website and deliver the results to HMG? It seems to me that it would achieve the same objective.


Petition -- it's already been done

  • Lucky Jim
  • 13/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Mon, 10/11/2008 - 15:17

A petition to 10 Downing Street has already been done by e-mail & by the London Team in person


E-petition

  • Hanimal
  • 27/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Mon, 10/11/2008 - 15:35

Sorry, I had better stop using the shout box. Looking over the Number 10 site, some petitions receive 4,000-5,000 signatures. My guess (and I did not know about the petition you mentioned) is only a few hundred would have signed the emailed petition if it was done very quickly.

I was hoping that if people tell their parents, grandparents, children, grandchildren etc there would be a chance of bombarding the PM with more than one petition. Just a thought.

Good lord, just found the details on the site - seems I am not technically savvy enough to find these things quickly. Depressed enough without being proven more stupid. Sorry.


No apology needed......

  • Lucky Jim
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  • Mon, 10/11/2008 - 18:36

...you are not alone.... & you are not stupid! The Forum now has a vast archive & no-one can be expected to read it all to locate specific issues. The search box is useful, but it isn't an alternative to Google !


E Petition - current status

  • hardyboyz
  • 13/10/08 01/03/10
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  • Mon, 10/11/2008 - 22:10

Hanimal, Lucky Jim,
Can I offer my understanding regarding petitions? Early on we had two seperate initiatives regarding petitions, an EMail petition and the number 10 "e-petition". To avoid the obvious confusion we focussed on the E Mail petition which the London team successfully presented to the Government and the Icelandic embassy. Since then there have been at least two attempts to start an "e-petition".on the official government website. Both of these petitions have been rejected as "outside the remit of the government". I believe the isue is that our deposits are with an Isle of Man bank. You can view the rejected petitions by going to http://search.petitions.number10.gov.uk/kbroker/number10/petitions/searc...
If the link doesn't work simply go to www.number10.gov.uk then look for e petitions and search for kaupthing you will find the two references under rejected petitions.
I still believe there will be some value in lodging an e petition and so on 2nd Nov I lodged another petition trying to focus on things that are within the governments remit. A copy is reproduced below. I am still waiting for a reply.

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to do all he can
to help the thousands of depositors of Kaupthing, Singer and
Friedlander (KSF) (Isle of Man). The vast majority of these
depositors are UK citizens whose life savings are now in
jeopardy following the government’s actions in freezing
KSF(IOM) assets held in the UK.

 KSF (IOM) is under a Provisional Liquidation Order as a direct
 result of the UK government’s decision to freeze the assets of
 KSF UK. If this money is not returned depositors stand to lose
 hundreds of millions (£). Many of these depositors are UK
 citizens living in the UK, Isle of Man or temporarily working
 abroad.  Some have their whole life savings at stake and are
 absolutely heartbroken. We request that the government provide
 protection for these innocent depositors by all possible means
 including: Release of all KSF (IOM) assets currently held in
 the UK. Assisting in any way it can to facilitate the
 continuing operation of KSF(IOM)as a going concern.
 Representing the IOM (as is its constitutional responsibility)
 in all negotiations with Iceland and the IMF. Continuing to
 require that the Icelandic government, as current owners of
 Kaupthing hf, honour the parental guarantee of these deposits.

I will let you know as soon as I have any reply (it is already more than the 5 working days they advise this should take)


I will sign

  • bellyup
  • 10/10/08 09/01/10
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  • Mon, 10/11/2008 - 22:58

Just keep us posted when its up I will sign.


E-Petition

  • colinalvin63
  • 28/10/08 n/a (free)
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  • Tue, 11/11/2008 - 01:08

I think that the government is being purposefully evasive as regards authorising an E-Petition concerning the liquidation of Kaupthing. It's too much of an embarrasment for the government I'm sure. I think they are trying to sweep it under the carpet. I don't see how they can, they caused the mess in the first place by causing a run on the bank. Maybe the E-Petition should address the UK Government's illegal use of anit-terrorism laws to seize assets of concerns which are not even based in the UK ?

How can the government argue that the Isle of Man is out of scope? It didn't stop them from meddling in IoM affairs, did it ? ! We should create an E-petition to prevent the government abusing it's powers and to prevent it from using anti-terrorism laws illigitimately ever again.


re - E-Petition

  • skintagainnow
  • 10/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Tue, 11/11/2008 - 01:16

Tried that one - guess what

also tried having the transcript of AD telephone conversation be made open

the name of AD's Icelandic contact

various others not some not mentioning IoM, but including kauphing, leaving out Kaupthing and including IoM

all rejected - outside the PM's remit

started thinking along the same lines - they are just not going to allow any.