DIRECT ACTION

  • peter and louise
  • 18/10/08 01/09/09
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Posted: Tue, 14/07/2009 - 19:41

We have been stripped of our life-savings, a terrible thing to happen to anyone in a civilised part of the world, or anywhere else for that matter. What makes matters worse is that no one will listen to us and see the injustice that KSFIOM depositors are having to suffer. Governments and Banks and Regulatory Authorities, whose job it was to see that such things never happen, HAVE let it happen, in fact, they have even had a hand in it. Now they are turning their backs on us. Ironically, they are bragging to the media that they are improving their performances. But what about us? None of them have shown remorse and none are going to volunteer to put matters right. There is no common-decency there. It has been 9 months and there has not been one iota of good news in all this time. We are now fighting amongst ourselves. We are, let's face it, making ourselves ill. Several months ago on the Isle of Man 30 or so depositors demonstrated for the return of their savings. Can those same people do it again on the streets of London? We will inform all the media, we will talk to them, we will do all we can to get our message across. Do we really want 5 or 6 years of more of this ahead of us? Let us do it now. How can we not?

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Direct action - focussed

  • anrigaut
  • 19/10/08 30/10/09
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  • Thu, 16/07/2009 - 07:05

If something (non-violent and not too physically demanding) was well organised and focussed, with enough support expected, I would do my best to come over. It might be better to focus on one or two specific demands - notably that for a Public Inquiry - than just saying Give us our money back, or whatever. Aswe are now in mid-July and August would be hopeless for getting any attention, September would be a time to aim for.


London demonstration

  • grandmaparis
  • 13/10/08 30/09/09
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  • Wed, 15/07/2009 - 23:01

I too would gladly join a London demonstration but, as Julienne says, it has to be well organised and, I would suggest, 'eye-catching' in order to get media attention. Let's go ahead with the poll and try and think up some good ideas. (Our protest in Douglas only got us a few seconds of footage on BBC North West, in spite of our excellent placards!)


London Demonstration

  • colinalvin63
  • 28/10/08 n/a (free)
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  • Tue, 14/07/2009 - 20:42

If something was planned ahead, I would be able to attend. I attended the IOM demonstration

Regards, Colin


Direct action

  • Julienne
  • 16/10/08 31/08/09
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  • Wed, 15/07/2009 - 07:08

This has to well organised and planned - to make any impact - but if such a thing was arranged - I would join - I won't be in London until at least August - but that is the silly season and not much attention is paid to stuff then - all the fat cat MP's in the South of France or on the Costa where their Spanish houses are probably used as addresses for expenses!!!


To develop the idea of Direct Action

  • peter and louise
  • 18/10/08 01/09/09
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  • Wed, 15/07/2009 - 11:05

How to get this demonstration moving forward, effectively? Clearly, to organize a demonstration which will have impact, a poll is needed first. This has been suggested before. We have to see how many depositors, friends and supporters we can count on. I will try and get help to set up a poll. Then, as LJ has very wisely suggested, the details of what we will do would be best discussed more privately, by e-mail perhaps.


@ peter & louise.. demonstrating

  • Lucky Jim
  • 13/10/08 31/05/09
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  • Wed, 15/07/2009 - 13:13

I applaud your enthusiasm for calling for a demonstration, & you are right about the problems of discussing this in this public forum. It might be better to wait until the Members Only forum is operational so that this could be discussed more privately and a proper rational approach taken as to whether there is merit in going ahead.

In the interim we should be asking: "What is the purpose of a demonstration and what is it hoped to achieve by it?". There are clearly pros & cons of a public demonstration (I raised these issues in the forum some time ago). You need to write down all the 'pros' & al the 'cons' and decide whether in the light of the 'cons' there is the likelyhood - or otherwise - of achieving the objective.

A poll is a good idea for determining whether the majority of the 800 or so >£50k members would be willing and able to demonstrate, but in order to be committed to the expense etc., of a demonstration members should have before them when voting that list of 'pros' & 'cons' and an assessment of the chances of achieving the stated objectives of the demonstration.

Good Luck!


Direct action

  • october
  • 20/10/08 31/12/09
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  • Wed, 15/07/2009 - 06:37

I was in IOM in April too and now I'm back in UK until the end of August so I'd be keen to join in. When and where? Soon!
On Radio Derby yesterday ,14th, there was a report that a Huddersfield(?) MP was asking questions. Someone is trying, we need to join in.


which huddersfield mp is that?

  • hippychickrobbed
  • 03/11/08 31/05/09
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  • Wed, 15/07/2009 - 07:50

is he labour or tory. I feel it is a labour one..