DAG Watchdog group

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Posted: Thu, 05/02/2009 - 18:58

ng has on his own initiative created a "DAG watchdog group", with elgee (me) as admin, for the purpose of discussions about the DAG teams' and committee's work and composition.

I do not particularly agree with the title or ng's introductory e-mail, but am content to run the group as is. Membership is open to all KSFIOM depositors, although certain applicants will be refused.

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  • ng
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This thread now set to read-only as I don't believe its serving any useful purpose. Of course a new thread might get started, may I request that you think carefully as to what the objective would be in re-starting, and consider whether it would be contributory to achieving DAG's primary objectives.


Watchddog

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  • Fri, 06/02/2009 - 15:43

Bitch, bitch, bitch, As a beta female could you please ban me from joining this group. Miowww.


Gentlemen, please STOP!

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Any new members logging on today will be wondering what this site is supposed to be about. Alpha males fighting for poll position or trying to work together to achieve the goal -100% of our hard earned money back.
I've been out for 5 hours and come back to exactly where I left this morning except the tone seems to be deteriorating by the hour.
Please have pity on the rest of us, I know we can log off but we shouldn't have to.


Oh, God, here we go again.

  • go mann
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Oh, God, here we go again.
I know there's a lot of frustration out there in DAG-Land, but this doesn't help one iota.
This perpetual bickering just stops me bothering to click the tab and get updated.
Pack it in, folks, PLEEEEASE.


cypheath

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  • Fri, 06/02/2009 - 14:38

I've paid a lot of money into this forum site up keep.I have the right to comment.Have you paid in?


Paid in!

  • cypheath
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  • Fri, 06/02/2009 - 15:12

OF COURSE


Paid in!

  • cottesmore
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  • Fri, 06/02/2009 - 15:14

good for you.


cypheath

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  • Fri, 06/02/2009 - 14:48

Goodness, are you now claiming that, in addition to your having a greater say because you have more money deposited in KSFIOM, that you have also bought a greater say by contributing (more) to the website costs?

Perhaps posters' rights on this forum should be weighted according to their IQs as well, in which case some members will have to do a hell of a lot more donating so as to compensate.


elgee

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Never, ever, asked for more say than anyone else..Just making the point that i have a right to comment as much as the next paying man!
As for compensating by donation for IQ.Well your £9000 wouldn't allow you to post a single word.


Oh dear, this might get

  • Captain Mainwaring
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  • Fri, 06/02/2009 - 14:49

Oh dear, this might get nasty.
@elgee - you could give the refund you received from the charm school to Coleslaw.

I'd be careful about the IQ bit mind - you may find some of us went to the same school (albeit about 30 years apart).
Penny for your thoughts and still get change.


Don't know about Alpha males,

  • Captain Mainwaring
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  • Fri, 06/02/2009 - 14:21

Don't know about Alpha males, a clapped out old sheep dog possibly (though I am a magnificent beast - even if I do say so myself).

Well Coleslaw and me and those other couple of geezers are going to have our own group sub-committee forum dicussion area soon, primarily dedicated to superheated steam, flat panel technology and the befits of using inverted bucket traps over float type traps - you could join if you like talking "trap".

http://www.spiraxsarco.com/resources/steam-engineering-tutorials/steam-t...

We figured we might set this group up because we still fancy getting more than 9K back and don't want anyone to get in the way.


Hear hear

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I'm not fan of censorship, but for the love of god can a moderator take this thread and place it in a very dark hole somewhere before everyone logs off.


Here here

  • cottesmore
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Off you go,Elgee awaits you with open arms


He did, but we all got

  • Captain Mainwaring
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He did, but we all got censored.


stop....enough is enough

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I agree with cypheath. This childish name-calling is occupying space on this site and deflects new readers away from the issue which is to enable the return of 100% of considerable amounts of money.
If you wish for a forum to have a childish slanging match all sign up for a Facebook acccount and you can write on each other's walls.
Meanwhile the rest of us can focus on the task at hand - 100% return of deposits.


"I concur". The core

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"I concur".

The core parameters should be candour and etiqette.

I am a newcomer to this forum, having only been made aware of its existence in M Simpson's 30/1/09 circular.

Accordingly, I would welcome an e-m to chasgsmith(?)btinternet [dot] com from any interested co-member who has the time and inclination to to bring me up to speed.

Thanks and regards.


stop....enough is enough

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  • Fri, 06/02/2009 - 14:24

I have been trying to do precisely that for many months. However, whenever I pursue this Captain Mainwaring and little friends butt in and deliberately defocus attention from the matters under discussion by a barrage of personal attacks.


Irony. Just a couple of

  • Captain Mainwaring
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Irony.
Just a couple of points:-
a) There is no group out to get you, you have encouraged people to protest against your actions all on your very own.
b) Irony - in that you yourself do yourself more harm than any group of members ever could. You have remained pompous (not sweetly so), patronizing and arrogant from the outset. You should never have become such a celebrity.
c) You appear to wallow in internet battles and the subsequent aftermath that may befall the less than cautious poster who rises to the bait, would you care to explain why that is?


captain kirk

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he is a gutless, verbal bully.
I have received emails from other members saying he stops other people making comments due to his attitude.Now that can't be left unchallenged.I dont like bullies.We are here for everyone (well,nearly) Not just those, with larger deposits.Can the same be said for the elgee?


Chicken, but not as we know it

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Is what I have for supper this goodly evening, save that it looks like a homage to asian cremation techniques.

No, don't like bullies, and I also don't like people who run to the internet equivalent of teacher after they have posted so much hate that some poor sod drops their guard and makes a personal comment.

Wish me luck with the chicken.


LP-Steamed Chicken

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Well there you go, just think with the artful use of the inverted bucket trap on atmospheric drain, you could have had that chicken steamed to perfection.


Captain kirk

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Are you sure its chicken and not some, 'hawked up' phlegm?


But - of course you never do

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But - of course you never do personal atacks, should we ask we a few others of the core team for a second opinion on that


But - of course you never do

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  • Fri, 06/02/2009 - 14:58

By all means do so. And search for my postings on this forum to see if you can find a personal attack by me that was not posted directly in response to one made to me.


It took a while for you lot to catch up

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What happened, thought this new group was just going to fade into the background after my initial comments 4 days ago,

http://chat.ksfiomdepositors.org/forum-topic/new-dag-watchdog-group

as for names quite simple already suggested :-

EWG

or perhaps better would be :-) TEAS (The Elgee Appreciation Society)


TEAS?

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Not sure about that. TALC-G does have rather a ring to it though.


The group was created in

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The group was created in direct response to the concerns that some members had over events surrounding the last liquidation hearing. I prefer to be non judgmental in this - there seems to be a number of members who want to discuss such matters, and I think they have the same right as anybody else to have a group area here to do so. The only provisos I would put are (a) they (at least) should believe that they are working towards the DAG's primary objectives and (b) they should draw well thought out and specific conclusions before presenting anything to the rest of the DAG.


DAG Watchdog group

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What the hell is this.How many more bloody sub committees and groups are required?
This is absolute bullsh*t.We do not need this kind of selective, secretive action.It is only being created to slag off actions of the core team.You know it Elgee,so do a lot of others.That's why you are excluding certain members.How dare you and a few of your muckers assume to oversee and pass judgement on other peoples hard efforts.This hasn't got anything to do with DAG team and committee's work,this is all about Elgee being in the 'limelight.' You remain determined to be the preverble bad smell.I for one,will be glad when you get your £9000 back.Then there is no reason for you to hang around!
Let me guess who's not on the welcome list.Thats you and me Captain!


DAG Watchdog group

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  • Thu, 05/02/2009 - 21:20

I think you should stick to posting cut-and-paste jokes on the forum.


At least it's not offensive

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At least it's not offensive to peoples efforts. It is certainly a distraction from reading your rubbish!


Non-sensical DAG Watchdog group

  • colinalvin63
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What a completely random and confusing name for a group, "DAG Watchdog". Sounds like a UK Treasury hacker has infultrated the group and is keeping tabs on us all ! Next thing you know MI5 will be attempting to assasinate members who submit inflamatory posts !

Who's stupid idea was this - Elgee ? If so, that wouldn't surprise me a bit - maybe he is cracking up under the strain of having to wait for his £9k?

I know this site is supposed to treat everyone as equals, but I'm sorry, I just CAN'T take someone seriously when they have a mere £9k invested (which is fully guaranteed), yet they come across all authoritarian and make believe they have some sort of control of the DAG's destiny !

Is there anybody in the DAG Watchdog group (barring Elgee) ? If not, I think it would be pertinent for ng to remove the group and forget it ever happened !


Elgee delivering news papers and making a living

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I am sure if Elgee had spent the same time delivering newspapers the last few Months as he has spent posting on this site then he would have made up his £9000 pounds by now and then some. I cannot understand why he is putting so much energy into this forum for a relatively small amount which is fully guaranteed one way or another anyway. The only thing I can think of is that he is retired bored and needs the attention. In the opening days of the KSF forum we had another guy like this. His name was Barrie Stevens , anyone remember dear old Barrie?
I for one cannot wait until the IOM raise the early payment to £10,000 and pay Elgee his full £9000. Following that it will be very difficult for him to post his opinions on this forum with any credibility.


delivering newspapers

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klauseriksen: If having a deposit in KSFIOM is a prerequisite for credible posting, what are Lucky Jim and Manx-person doing on the forum, the first of whom is also a forum moderator?

I should perhaps remind you that my opinions and facts posted here have so far proved to have been consistently correct, notwithstanding that you and your pals sought to deride them at the time, whereas those posted by your ignorant little group have been uninformed, misinformative and have misdirected depositors.


klauseriksen

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Don't be suprised if you get an email from Elgee saying you are not fit to make comment as you are pre pubiscent.That's what he wrote to me,didn't you Elgee?


Elgee

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You haven't answered


I am expecting to be kicked out by Elgee

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Yes I am expecting this. Would be revealing see Elgee showing his true collars. For the vast majority of us, the main purpose of this forum is to get as much of our money back as soon as possible. For some though the purpose appears to be self gratification and perhaps satisfaction in trying to sabotage more affluent depositors in their quest to get their money back


Possibly

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I did wonder myself whether our friend resented the fact that some of us had deposited greater sums of money than he had.

Some people take great offense when barrow boys like us do well for ourselves.

My father was brought up in a pre-fab in Cricklewood and still ended up living almost next door to the elgee family pile.

Some people can be very jealous.

Anyhow, stay quiet for now, you are our spy in Project "Back-Scuttle the Big Depositors"


cottesmore, mainwaring

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  • Fri, 06/02/2009 - 12:54

That's enough.


steenjp

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No it isnt.I will carry on until this group allows every one of us to be members or is disbanded.He has no right what so ever to decide who's in and who's out.So get off your moral high ground and support the 'right thing.'


Cottes

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If he wants a group on his own that's fine - it makes no difference to the overall forum, ng explained a number of issue's with this a few days ago.

Whatever this group decides or discusses in it's own area - would still have to be debated on the public forum with the majority of members. The thought process was that it would stop a lot of the OPEN bickering, which lets face it has to be a good idea.

I'm not a member of this group or any group, with this one didn't think worth the time to even click the join tab and give someone the satisfaction of a negative response.

My view -- just let them get on with it - clear up the open forum for more important matters, not related to massaging an ego.

I know there is a possible further problem of "representation" therefore my voice should be louder, but that can be dealt with later..

BTW.. NG yes a new private group named "Bus Ticket Accounts", do you need a email to confirm?

Edited,

In light of another post elsewhere on the site, I would like to clarify the name "Bus Ticket Accounts" this is NOT a jibe at low value account holders, it is a serious topic for those where the bank opened accounts without the identification normally expected under Money Laundering Regulations.


steenjp

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I have that right


elgee

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Dog and bone spring to mind.I never let go,OK
Answer my question above.Show people what your really like.


Well if you can come up with

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Well if you can come up with a better name, then we can go back to posting youtube links.

Have you applied for membership yet?

I bet going out for a few pints with you is a bundle of fun.


Enough with the playground

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Enough with the playground insults please everyone.

The point of your emails seems to have got lost with your insults, which is the problem with adopting that tone.

The group’s main purpose, it seems to me, is to ratify or propose amendments to the structure and authority of the DAG committee and avoid a repeat of the bickering in the run up to the last court hearing.

Are you saying that a) you think the committee is fine as is and its role/membership is perfectly clear, or b) that you just don’t want Elgee involved in anything?

This was Ng's initiative, and providing Elgee remains objective in this I fail to see the problem with his running the group.

I understand that people with large deposits have more at stake in this, but it does not grant you the right to sneer at people with smaller deposits. If you wish to create a group for large depositors then go right ahead, but don’t lose sight of the fact that the support of <50 depositors is imperative in the achievement of the DAG’s aims.


DonaldC

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Answer is B.

I think ng might have been persuaded to start this group by................................you guessed it, Elgee.
Just an opinion though.


Donald, he has his own

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Donald, he has his own members only playpen now, we are not permitted to view the contents. That could be why we are discussing the matter here. Elgee is free to do as he wishes in his own corner, and you are welcome to join him.


Non-sensical DAG Watchdog group

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The choice of name, and the idea of the group, was that of ng (site admin), not mine.


Wrong name perhaps

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The name of the group should perhaps be changed. I chose it in a hurry, wanting to give elgee and those the felt as he did a place to call their own. Elgee himself can rename it if he wants (elgee, go to http://chat.ksfiomdepositors.org/node/2743/edit)

But please people, lets not complain about this just because it exists - it would exist whether or not a site-based group were made available for it. In creating it, this thread is exactly what I wanted to avoid (a public thread complaining about the actions of a relatively small number of members). Can we please just leave them to it, we have many more matters to attend to.


ELGEE, GIVE UP TALKING RUBBISH

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I agree with the comments made by ng. Elgee I have said this before, you have too much time on your hands. Is this site the only opportunity you have to insult people. Do you ever say anything complimentary or do you save all your nastiness for this site?


Insults? Oh Lord no, where

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Insults?

Oh Lord no, where did you get that idea from? Many an insult has been traded in other places and at other times - this is only a warm up bout.