Could Icelandic justice be in view?
Recent weeks have seen some hopeful (to me at least) signs that the long-awaited day of reckoning may perhaps at last be approaching for the Viking pirates who enriched themselves hugely through the casino banks funded by our money and then siphoned off as much as they could in the dying days (or even in what should have been the dead days), leaving the likes of us to take the rap. Can we dare to hope that the major perpetrators will one day be punished and feel some of the pain they inflicted on others by their apparently unbounded and thoughtless (Kaupthinking) greed?
The Winding-up Boards of all three collapsed Icelandic banks appear to be going after managers and executives with punishing law-suits which, if successful, could help fill the coffers for the benefit of creditors. In the case of Kaupthing, we stand to gain some financial benefit from any successful actions (through both KSFUK's claim against K hf and our parental guarantee). And even if the financial impact is limited or non-existent, justice will surely be sweet?
I have posted links to several recent reports as News items. But I thought it might be useful to group them together here, where hopefully others may be added. I hope I have accurately captured the essential in my brief summaries below – see the links for more details.
In November (2011), it was announced that the former CEO of Kaupthing, suspected of market abuse, had been called in for questioning as part of the ongoing investigations of the Special Prosecutor's Office (SPO). At the same time, the SPO was reported to be “currently investigating more than 200 cases, ten of which are expected to be completed before the end of this year.”
http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/search/news/Default.asp?ew_0_...
This was followed in December by the news that six former Kaupthing executives, whose personal responsibility for loans they had received to buy shares in the bank had been lifted shortly before the collapse, had been judged liable to repay these loans. Action is being taken to ensure that assets both in Iceland and overseas can be seized to cover the debts (subject to confirmation by the Supreme Court). These are just some of “tens of cases” said to be still in court.
http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/Kaup%C3%BEing_Bank...
Then this month came news that the winding-up committee of Glitner has filed charges against two of its former CEOs for damages relating to a dubious loan.
http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/search/news/Default.asp?ew_0_...
and that the Landsbanki Winding-Up Board is suing the top management of the bankrupt bank, board-members and insurers for damages caused by not stopping the bank’s operations on 3 October 2008 when, according to the WUB, the bank was de facto bankrupt.
http://uti.is/2012/01/landsbanki-winding-up-board-sues-managers-non-exec...
http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/search/news/Default.asp?ew_0_...
http://uti.is/2012/01/more-on-landsbankis-last-hours/

OSP brings charges in the al-Thani case
This latest development in Iceland relates to Kaupthing.
The Special Prosecutor has filed charges against Kaupthing's CEO Hreidar Mar Sigurdsson, Chairman Sigurdur Einarsson, Kaupthing Luxembourg manager Magnus Gudmundsson and the second largest shareholder in Kaupthing Olafur Olafsson.
See here: http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/Kaupthing%E2%80%99...
and Sigrun's initial comments on her blog here:
http://uti.is/2012/02/osp-brings-charges-in-the-al-thani-case/
Sigrun reports: "They are all charged with market manipulation. Sigurdsson and Einarsson are seen as the organisers and are in addition charged with breach of fiduciary duty. Olafsson and Gudmundsson are charged for participation in this breach and Olafsson is in addition charged for money laundering."
Of course they are all aboad and all deny the charges.
First Supreme Court ruling in case brought by Special Prosecutor
Interesting blog from Sigrun Davidsdottir on the verdict reported here:
http://chat.ksfiomdepositors.org/news-item/icelander-gets-prison-insider...
Selected extracts below - but the whole is worth a read:
http://uti.is/2012/02/baldur-the-blame-game-and-the-flat-screen-theory-o...
"The first Supreme Court ruling in a case of insider trading in Iceland has constituted a clear example: the gain was ISK192m, €1.2m, the sentence is two years imprisonment. There are two fundamentally significant aspects of this case: it’s the first Supreme Court ruling in a case brought by the Office of the Special Prosecutor – and the man found guilty, Baldur Gudlaugsson (b. 1946), is not one of the thirty or so major players in the collapse of the Icelandic banks but a former permanent secretary (a civil servant) at the Ministry of Finance. ...
... At the moment, the question of blame is widely debated in Iceland – and the ruling in Gudlaugsson’s case leads to the sarcastic remark, often heard since the District Court ruling, that one civil servant, who made a profit of ISK192m, may be the only person to be sent to prison for criminal acts connected to the collapse of the banks. A scapegoat for the infamous thirty who many Icelanders do blame for these events. – It’s an untimely remark: it’s still far too early to tell what the outcome of the present and coming OPS cases will be.
Apart from Gudlaugsson’s case, the debate on blame falls into two categories: there is what could be called the “Flat-Screen Theory of Blame” – and then the theory, according to which the OSP is working, that alleged crimes are committed by certain individuals. Suspicion of criminal doings should lead to an investigation and, depending on the outcome of the investigation, charges should be brought.
The “Flat-Screen Theory” draws its name from an interview with Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson, who together with his son Bjorgolfur Thor, owned 42% of Landsbanki at the time of its collapse.* In the interview, published a few months after the events of October 2008, Gudmundsson pointed out that Icelanders had lived beyond their means, the number of flat-screens sold in Iceland being a case in point. The core of this theory is that everyone is to blame. Jon Asgeir Johannesson recently aired the same idea – no single person did anything wrong or is to blame; in his version, the collapse seemed like a natural disaster. What happened in Iceland, according to the “Flat-Screen Theory,” was a sort of collective madness that ended in a collective collapse. ... "
Sigrun concludes:
"It’s fair to say that there is a battle raging in Iceland between the “Flat-Screen” theorists and those who think investigations are necessary in order to show that crime doesn’t pay. That battle is fought over who gets to interpret the past. Those who eventually manage to shape the Icelanders’ understanding of events and circumstances up to October 2008 will come to own the present – and eventually the political and financial future of Iceland. "
Robert Tchenguiz
I note from today's MailOnline that Robert Tchenguiz "the largest shareholder of Kaupthing " who borrowed GBP 1.7billion from Kaupthing is in the process of selling a huge portfolio of property to raise GBP 3billion to clear debts of GBP 2billion ( sorry I've used GBP my computer doesn't have the standard pound sign ).
Has this report got any significance for recovery of the GBP1.7billion by Kaupthing ( presumably Kaupthing hf of Iceland ) and hence assist us to recover our money under the parental guarantee ?
D RAM
Vincent Tchenguiz, not Robert ...
D RAM,
This stuff is mostly beyond me. I note that the property portfolio, which "comes with £2 bn worth of debts", is being sold by Vincent Tchenguiz, not Robert. Though the brothers affairs are inter-connected and Vincent is said to be "acting on behalf of the Tchenguiz Family Trust".
It was Robert who is said to have borrowed £1.7 bn from Kaupthing. As far as I can make out, Vincent was less heavily involved with Kaupthing, mostly offering collateral for his brother. It was announced in September that Vincent had made a deal with Kaupthing to 'reconstruct controversial loan agreements', as part of which he agree to drop his £1.5 bn legal claim against the bank. But the terms of the settlement were kept confidential. I can only guess, but reading between the lines I suspect that the bulk of the £2 bn of debts attached to the property portfolio is probably not owed to Kaupthing.
See also here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tycoon-to-clear-his-debts...
Reporting on the same story, NOTW adds that "Private Investigators have been engaged to discover whether Tchenguiz used any money from Kaupthing Bank to acquire property. A group of those who lost money to Kaupthing Bank have engaged also forensic accountants to trace if the missing billions any part went to Tchenguiz."
http://www.newsoftheworldonline.eu/feed-categories/4931-3-billion-price-...
@Anrigaut
Anrigaut:
Thanks so much for your clarification. The shenanigans attached to many of these multi-billionaires is a complete mystery to me - they appear to live a charmed life insulated from we common mortals.
Oh well, here's to happy days,
D RAM.
@ D RAM
For more on Tchenguiz shenanigans and (probable) asset siphoning, you might care to take a look at this: http://thecynicaltendency.blogspot.com/2012/01/britains-biggest-boot-sal...
"... A delicate question arises about why all these freeholds are still in their possession to be sold. At one time most, if not all, were held in subsidiaries of their Consensus Business Group one way or another.
In March 2011 from within this Group a major subsidiary Peverel Group were taken into Administration by Zolfo Cooper because of a default on debt obligations. Clearly by this time these freeholds had been removed.
The chances are that they went to a brass plate company in the British Virgin Islands. ..."
Happy days to you too!
Anrigaut
Nice link, Anrigaut..
What a crooked web they weave.
Tchenguiz looks like a cowboy, must be a mix of his Iranian colouring, his style of dress in that photo where he has his foot on the bumper of his Bentley and our associations with sphagetti westerns, but substantially the link you've given points out the real problem. These sharks, the Tchenguiz twins, out-manoeuvring whilst playing with the 'banking elite' (clowns like Hester) have ripped off a billion (almost small change nowadays - was more or less the asset size of Kaupthing IoM -) whilst really gutting the rest of us.
And we've got Simpson, and of course all the intellectual might of someone like Bell now King of the IoM sand_ castle, and of course the uncompromising IoM judicial system (take a bow Corlett1) to thank for controlling and regularising the situation.
You are correct Anrigaut in thinking that it is appropriate that the inquest continues. Max Planck seems to me to have it down when he says that the majority can't handle paradigm shifts, and he was talking about physicists. You must be struggling with the conclusions you've reached. Don't worry, you're miles ahead of the pack. And that is what we had to deal with. Talking of the pack, just how are the COI doing?
This is emotional stuff not purely cerebral (as if we could ever forget emotions) and so music fits in.
I really like this track... I've read that Sting's idea for the track was the subject of a stalker. Not a pretty picture and not one that ever occurred to me before I read that comment. But I wasn't surprised. This old NTNN rework sort of fits here.. and why not... why not enjoy a couple of minutes before sorting out the next link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFrvr7EB66g
Thanks ftt for the support -
Thanks ftt for the support - and the music, which I did indeed enjoy.
What chance for ordinary mortals?
"Iceland pre-and post-collapse: Splitting apart debt and assets – and the lost sense of honour to pay one’s debt"
Another excellent blog by Sigrun. Recommended reading - not for the faint-hearted:
http://uti.is/2012/01/splitting-debt-and-assets-apart-and-the-lost-sense...
Selected extracts (but you should read it all):
"... But before it comes to bankruptcy, there are ways to siphon assets off. This was done in the Iceland – not only in the banks but also in the smaller financial institutions such as the building societies. The basic way is to use a cluster of companies as a centrifuge where, in the course of a few years, debt and asset is split apart: the debt stays in certain companies, the assets migrate elsewhere. When things go badly, the debt-ridden companies go bankrupt, little or nothing is left for the creditors whereas assets, bought with the help of loans, have been spirited away. ..."
"...In addition, the Icelandic lenders lent exorbitant amount of money into holding companies such as FL Group, Exista, Samson, Baugur and Milestone, which in turn lent the money on to related parties, paid out dividends or did in other ways split apart debt and assets. By lending money into these holding companies, the companies turned into banks with no risk management.
The three main banks in Iceland all lent to big borrowers who used these methods. ..."
" ... Once money has been channelled out of sight and reach of WUBs and authorities such as tax authorities it isn’t trivial to get the money back into the country of origin, let’s say Ireland or Iceland. ..."
Anrigaut - re 'ordinary mortals'
Anrigaut,
What chance do we have against this type of horrendous thievery (is that a word) - no chance. Perhaps we were lucky to be in a subsidiary not a branch of Kaupthing.
It is beyond belief.
Thanks again for horrifying but essential reading,
Gordon 45
@Anrigut, Gordon45 et al.. PWC weren't involved in auditing ..
any of this were they? Mere mortals like oursleves who don't charge 400usd per hour (for answering the telephone and calling PWC's 'pet' (I'd say 'whore' but I'm very crude apparently so kindly ignore this comment) lawyers couldn't possibly understand that 'they were all in it together'. Well in fact they still are. How much does porkie Simpson bill us an hour courtesy of his timeshare in PWC? He gets minders charge free from PWC Central in the UK (I'm an accountant- trust me- UK-PLC-- widest pirates in the known universe.. (Oh hello Valentine.. everything OK.. the COI creaming it still are they-- fighting like George against the dragon.. I just can't get over their CV's.. it is horrible being this cynical Velantine.. I'm sure "he" was a mole when he worked for GS..... and I'm sure he was paying all his taxes as a Devon farmer whilst he had to have an account in the IOM... ---no doubt I'm stupid Valentine... but if it smells bad it is probably shit..... isn't that right .. I can't even remeber our sheep farmers name..))))))))))) (can somebody put a C brackets checker on the above code.....)
Anrigaut.... NICE WORK... OCCUPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes Valentine,. risk of dirty hands... and confrontation..... Bell pottinger are coming up very clean at present. or is that the reverse?
Pitchforks at the ready...... let's attack the human condition...
What about IOM and UK Justice ?
Good to hear that Iceland is taking an apparently vigorous approach and seeking return of funds from those who mismanaged/looted Kaupthing hf but has there been any similar attempts by the UK and IOM authorities as regards KSF(UK) and KSF(IOM) ? There was news previously of investigations but have these resulted in even a single person been prosecuted or sued for return of ill gotten gains ?
Thought not,
D RAM
Iceland has the advantage
Iceland has the advantage that it no longer in thrall to the financial sector. Not the case in the UK or the city's money funnel on the IOM.
Regards, TonyC
To Anrigaut - re 'could Icelandic Justice be in View'
Hi Anrigaut,
Once more can I than you for these pieces of information, that help to fill in many of the gaps that I have re these parts of the Investigations, that are happening in Iceland and elsewhere.
Yourself, Glen07 and a few others have done fantastic work on our behalf over the past 3 years and I certainly appreciate it. Your thoroughness and perseverance on behalf of us all is way beyond belief - and I thank you sincerely. And you do come to my aid answering questions that I might flounder with, and also give me information that helps my investigations and estimates when updating my tables.
Others also include Icecrusher with his sharp mind and thoughts, and hopefully between us all, we cover most of the arena surrounding the KSFIOM situation.
I see some of us who still remain, seem despondent that more than 3 years on we have still not yet reached the end - liquidation finalised - but it always (seemed to me anyway) that it could take 7-10 years before it all finished. Hopefully now it might just be finished by Dec 2014 (another guess). And we must stay positive - 83.2% back (of sorts) and hopefully another 10-13% within 17 months. and maybe just that 100%+ by Dec 2014. So it could be so much more worse than it is.
Anyway, thanks once more and keep updating when and where you can,
Gordon 45
Justice for all / us?
Anrigaut / Gordon / Ice and others that have greater knowledge than I.
Over the last 3 + years I have made some contributions only by way of comments in the press or on our site. I have only been able to do so because you have all been there investigating probing and giving evidence.... which has kept me reading these pages along with information on the other website and continuing to read the press hoping that one day we might all be reunited with ALL of our lost bank deposits.
Without some form of leadership none of us would be where we are today so thanks for filling the gaps that I missed with my own readings and making sense of that which I do not understand.
With continuing fight for our justice. 100% return.
Gordon/ Anrigaut/IceCrusher/Tao
This has been a Sentence it feels like it ..But here is to all my Inmates!
ALL of you have given me Hope and Expert advice over the years. Without you we would not be still here... So know that you are very much Needed and Valued MORE & MORE..